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[-] SingularEye@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 6 months ago

spice is both. it also lets you see the future, bend spacetime, and recover the memories of your ancestors. Among other things.

[-] shneancy@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

psychedelics also "let you" do it (and by that i mean make you feel like you can)

[-] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

It only lets you bend spacetime in the David Lynch movie.

[-] FrenchThrowAway@jlai.lu 10 points 6 months ago

It's explicitly described as allowing spacetime bending in the books, maybe Villeneuve will talk more about it in the nexr movies

[-] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Spacefolder ships use the Holtzman effect to bend spacetime. Computers were used to find safe routes before the Butlerian Jihad. Without computers, guild navigators use their prescience to find safe routes. Spice doesn’t allow spacetime bending, just navigating through bent spacetime without a high fatality rate from flying into stars.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If you watch really closely in Dune P1, you can see another planet (presumably Selusa Secundus) through the center of the navigator ship. I don't know how it functions mechanically in his version, if they're navigating wormholes somehow or controlling them, but they have some form of wormhole mechanism shown in the series.

Edit: The image embed didn't seem to work, so here's the link to the image. https://www.reddit.com/r/dune/s/pSBHvR3Ser

[-] SingularEye@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago
[-] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

All of Frank’s several times each.

[-] SingularEye@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago

so what are the navigators doing then?

[-] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Literally navigating. It’s apparently hard to travel long distances that way without running into stars and whatnot. They used to use computers to chart safe courses. Then after the butlerian jihad, most long distance travel stopped due to the high rate of “oops”. It only resumed when the guild was able to use prescience to know which routes wouldn’t result in everyone dying.

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