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Sunday’s successful blockade run could signal to international shippers that it’s reasonably safe to resume operations from Ukrainian ports.

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[-] 133arc585@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Really shifting the goalposts there.

You start with

The only nuclear threats have some from the US.

Then someone provides a list of such events that are from Russia and not the US, then you shift to

Every single one of these is outlined as a response to military aggression.

The original commenter didn't say they were without context. They simply said that the threats were made, which they were. You were so adamant that they weren't made that when you were shown proof that they were made, you have to reframe it.

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

That's like, a logical fallacy, or something. I think. 🤔

[-] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml -5 points 1 year ago

Then someone provides a list of such events

Didn't happen. These are all responses to threats, not threats themselves.

[-] 133arc585@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What a weird framing you're taking. They're literally threats. They're contingent threats, but they're still threats. Your claim was that they have not made threats; in reality, they have.

Also: isn't every threat contingent? If the threat is "I will use nukes if X event occurs" it's contingent on X occurring. If the threat is "I will use nukes" then it's still contingent, but the contingency is implied: "I will use nukes if I want to". There is no such thing as a threat that isn't contingent.

In fact, since you asserted that the only threats had come from the US, can you point to any sources from the US that are threats (and let's use your definition of threats here, too: you don't get to point to a contingent threat)?

[-] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 1 year ago

They’re contingent threats, but they’re still threats. Your claim was that they have not made threats; in reality, they have.

Okay then everyone is always in a state of threatening each other. Kind of meaningless.

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