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Important clarification/FAQI am not calling to coddle or excuse the behavior of bigoted men in any way!

I am calling to be kind and understanding to young men (often ages 10-20) who are very manipulable and succeptible to the massive anti feminist propaganda machine. Hope this clarifies that very important distinction. :)

Very good comments that express key points:

Edit: This post has now been removed and restored twice. I want to encourage you all:

Be decent to one another

I think this post is a valuable thing given the current state of the Fediverse, please don't fuck it up for us by being toxic in the comments.

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[-] SapientLasagna@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago

I don't think this is a good example of class struggle, at least not directly. The bear meme is valid in as much as it describes one woman's feelings, but the truth is that in 85-90% of cases, the woman knows her attacker^1^. The random man is simply not the issue.

The issue is power disparity. Teacher vs student, employer vs worker, landlord vs tenant. It's difficult to reduce the power difference due to physical strength, but the others are all changeable. More (meaningful) oversight for police, better tenancy boards, and stronger unions are all examples of structures that might make it harder to victimize women.

Class struggle explains economic, and maybe political power, but those are not the only types of power in play.

And if I'm wrong? Then we've made a better society for nothing.

^1^ https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/most-victims-know-their-attacker

[-] hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

i fundamentally agree with you. i think it depends on how loosely you define 'direct'. class struggle has its fingers in many pies including

  • marketing saturation / materialism
  • mental health availability
  • quality of education
  • overall day-to-day stress levels

all of which are at odds with encouraging a more empathetic, happy, and healthy population of men. people who are angry and fearful and deprived are easier to control and sell products to than people who are kind and understanding and satisfied. a higher quality of life breeds a higher quality of people and interpersonal interactions.

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