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Someone stop the ride, I want to get off
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I have responded and continue to do so.
I'm invested in it because it's sympathizing with Hamas which is an actual genocidal cult but their own words. If you ask Hamas why it's fighting they will tell you it's to kill all Jews. Look at Hamas and what they stand for what they say they are going to do. Look it up as I guarantee you haven't and don't know.
What am I to say about the shooting of their own hostages. I can assume it was an accident and war is crazy. But I don't know for sure and neither do you.
Hamas broke the current cease fire that had already been in place on Oct 7th. Why would Israel agree to another cease fire from the people who broke the one they already had. Do you want Hamas to kill even more innocent? Because they have already said they will if given the chance.
I'm not lying about anything. Prove to me I'm lying. I'm engaging that " fact" right now. You can't just like I can't prove the fighting would stop if they gave up the hostages. Just because you denied reality or refuse to look at both sides does mean I'm lying. Neither side is without blame but one is way more brutal and genocidal in their intentions even if they both aren't equal in their capabilities. In my view you are being irrational by not paying attention to both sides or acknowledging what Hamas did or said they intend to do.
What ceasefire? 2023 was the deadliest year for Palestinian children before October 7th. Israel has never had interest in peace, only land grabs and ethnic cleansing.
Year before Oct 7 - Jewish Voice for Peace
2023 is 'deadliest year' for Palestinian children say human rights groups
HRW Events of 2022 and HRW Events of 2023
Hamas began twenty years into the occupation during the first Intifada, with the goal of ending the occupation. Collective punishment has been a deliberate Israeli tactic for decades with the Dahiya doctrine. Violence such as suicide bombings and rockets escalated in response to Israeli enforcement of the occupation and apartheid.
Hamas 1988 Charter and Revised 2017 Charter
The 1988 Charter, which is certainly unreasonable in its fundamentalism with Sharia Law and is antisemitic, does not call for the extermination of all Jewish People. Hamas wants an end to Israel as an Apartheid State, not an extermination of all Israelis. Under Ahmed Yassin in the 1990's, truces were offered in exchange for Israeli to withdrawal from Gaza and the West Bank to the 1967 borders. The 2017 Revised charter explicitly accepts a Two-State Solution of the 1967 Borders. Check Article 7 and 13 of the 1988 Charter to see yourself, compare it to Article 20 and 24-26 in the revised charter.
The slogan From the River to the Sea is about Palestinian liberation that started in the 60s by the PLO for a democratic secular state, not Genocide. The Syrian leader Hafez al-Assad in 1966 maybe, but he's not Palestinian.
The History of Hamas, supported by Netanyahu since 2012. The division between west bank and Gaza leadership has been a deliberate divide and conquer campaign. Like how the West Bank has been divided into hundreds of isolated enclaves by Israel.