view the rest of the comments
politics
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
It meant something and it still partially does for a big part of the country. Also, it's part of tradition and a phrase that US is recognizable across the globe. Nothing wrong with it unless you hate faith/catholicism. Currently, it's being used to provoke the left and people shouldn't fall for that provocation. Other countries and regions also have some historical motto's that partially or fully lost their meaning through time, but are part of a tradition and recognizability.
If you argue it's tradition, it's a relatively recent one what was created during the cold war and the last time we had a red scare. The same time they added "one nation, under god" to the pledge of allegiance.
If you want to talk about using the traditional national motto. It was "e pluribus unum" and was established during the birth of the nation.
It's bullshit, and why people don't like it, is that like much of what the GOP is doing is a slow burn. They are actively working to push their flawed Christian beliefs through at every stage. And even worse, they keep doing it in schools to influence children.
You actually changed my postion on this. "If you want to talk about using the traditional national motto. It was “e pluribus unum” and was established during the birth of the nation." - I agree and it seems reasonable.
Although, I still don't see a problem with "In God We Trust" (because of the reasons I wrote before) as it's a part of the tradition now and something that almost everyone associates with the US.
As for the influence in schools - both sides are doing that. Sadly, all that political bullshit breaks over children's back.
"Both sides!"
It was adopted as motto in the 50s. It's not some historical relic we need to be stuck with. Hell, both Trump and Biden are older than the motto. Just change it back to E Pluribus Unum.
Don't think so. It tells everyone not believing in God that they don't belong to "we".
Well I guess I, and the other people not part of the Christian "we" should just make own "we". With blackjack. And hookers.