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The lemmy.ml Problem
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this post was submitted on 06 Jun 2024
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Ok so I'm no one here and not on the .world team.
So don't take what I'm saying personally or anything bc I'm not meaning it in any kind of angry or combative way. Not trying to argue with you or anyone.
I'm not of the same beliefs that .ml or the developers are. So I guess you can say you and I agree that yea their messed up I get it.
But that's the issue with the whole fediverse thing. Even though I do agree with you about .ml
People are allowed to do whatever they want and believe whatever they want. That's not up to you. Don't Take that as an attack, I'm not meaning it as one.
Think of it this way:
It's like .ml making this post but about your personal beliefs (they probably already do)
OR
let's pretend lemmy was heavily conservative instead of liberal making this exact post. You'd think wtf ?
You get what I'm saying ?
But that's not up to them to get what I'm trying to say ? Yea it's fucked up but ppl are allowed to believe whatever they want. Even if what they believe is shitty. The thing is, one person doesn't and shouldn't get to make that call for everyone else.
No one person knows what's best for everyone
I could agree with you if they would not specifically suppress anyone not agreeing with them. That is the big issue, meaning that anyone there only sees that one side of everyone agreeing with their nonsense, with no chance to get out.
And we absolutely know that making shit up is not good for people and where that can lead to. It does not need to be "best', just not the absolute worst.
Unfortunately though... that is lemmy though dude. That's what I'm trying to say.
It's by design. That's how and why the fediverse is the way it is. It's stupid yes I don't agree with it either. But that is the truth.
Echo chambers. That's how they want it.
I think you misunderstand the issue, so as you mentioned conservative, let's illustrate it with an analogy.
The situation with lemmy.ml right now, and apologies for the reddit analogy, is the equivalent if on reddit the batshit crazy mods of formerly /r/the_donald or /r/conservative could ban you from /r/linux because you said something bad about Trump on /r/memes. At that point it's not about dissenting opinions, it's about them wielding power they shouldn't have over those dissenting people.
An instance that operates like that shouldn't be part of mainstream lemmy and host general purpose communities. The only way to take that power from them is to shun them, i.e. defederate.
I wonder what your "call out" looked like that then actually got you temp banned from all those communities, have you laid that open anywhere too?
I told them something like: "The modlog of this community is ridiculous" and posted the same screenshot of the modlog that I posted on my thread on !fediverse@lemmy.world. Forgive me if I'm paraphrasing, because my exact comment is gone.
Where did it go, where did you post it to?
Well put
Ty