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Russia mocks Macron following EU election defeat
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Here in the US, I'm afraid we've never been particularly good at it. They are. We're frankly outmatched in this new information warfare arena.
In a hot war we could ruin them, we're good at those. This stuff, not so much. It runs counter to our broader culture where everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
edit: One thing we could perhaps do is hire some top tier marketing firms. Instead of applying a warfighting perspective to it, look at it as business competition and from a market capture perspective.
Hurl weaponized capitalism at them. Military industrial complex has nothing on a good marketing agency.
Simple mechanisms for flagging/reviewing misinformation would be helpful but we've gone in the completely opposite direction with Musk's shittified twitter and every platform being scared to provide a dislike count so sll the scummiest shit just floats to the top with zero indication of controversy
If anything, I think Musk's takeover of twitter has thankfully removed a lot of the power that the platform had. People don't trust it anymore, and they never should have.
It would be helpful but it would only be a band-aid on the sucking chest wound of economic issues. There's also the very real problem of who gets to declare something as "misinformation". There's absolutely no way I would entrust our Government with that power and I trust the private companies running Media and Social Media outlets even less.
I like your suggestion. Use the psychological products of Western capitalism and the free market to counter the toxicity of the Russian state. I think it would work very well if we get the implementation right. Because right now Russia's most effective enemy is themselves (more specifically: their self-loathing, self-sabotaging mindset).
What that may mean in practice?
Always a good time to remember the old joke:
<<An agent of the CIA and an agent of the KGB are together at a bar, chatting after taking what's probably too much alcohol given their occupations.
The CIA agent tells the Russian: "You know, I must admit that you guys are really good at propaganda. The way you paint capitalism is great. People swallow it everywhere!"
The KGB agent replies: "Thank you, thank you, we put a lot of work into it, but American propaganda is something else. It is so good that you guys think you don't have propaganda!"
And the CIA agent says: "But we have no propaganda.">>
Uuuh can you explain to my friend?
The KGB agent admits that they're propagandists, but the US propaganda runs so deep that the CIA agent isn't even aware that they do have propaganda.