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[-] Moneo@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

For a start you could get active in local politics and support zoning reform. Car dependent infrastructure is a huge contributor to greenhouse gas emissions and I am not just talking about car exhaust.

If we want to solve climate change we need to change our way of life, and that means ditching as many cars as possible.

I don't disagree with you, having walkable infrastructure would be great.

It just doesn't really seem achievable in any meaningful way.

A few hundred km from here a gargantuan hydrogen facility is being built - using solar to cracking hydrogen from sea water. It will take decades to build, and is a big undertaking.

I offer the above as an example of something difficult but reasonably achievable.

Lobbying local government to favour walkable infrastructure just doesn't seem like a viable pathway to meaningful change in a reasonable time horizon.

Yes I should take 15 minutes every election cycle to vote for the right person. Beyond that though my input wouldn't be very valuable.

[-] Moneo@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

The Netherlands went from car dependent nightmare to cycle capital of the world in a generation. Meaningful change takes time but it is possible in our life times and it isn't going to happen on it's own.

Voting is good, talk to your friends. Be that annoying person who won't shut the fuck up about how annoying cars are, change peoples minds or at least plant the idea in their brain that we can exist without cars.

Apathy solves nothing.

[-] menemen@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The netherlands still have a terrible CO2 bilance, which shows that we have to think much bigger than that.

On the local space have a focus on the climate impact preperation. This might very well safe many lifes in your city/town/village. For the climate change reduction think national and international.

[-] secretlyaddictedtolinux@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

what? it's too late for that.

we are all actually going to die. changing a zoning rule? you think that's going to help?

if there's an avalanche that is seconds away from enveloping you in snow and killing you, do you suggest walking a few steps to the side? it won't do anything. the math is too much at this point to change with recycling a can or planting a tree. the only thing that will get the world to finally believe in math is massive amounts of death

make peace with death, it's coming for us all

[-] xilona@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

Lets ditch politicians first...

[-] recapitated@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago

I'm pretty sure the only way to solve this is by an extension of politics though another means. Are you ready?

[-] Moneo@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I'm not sure I'm ready no, but this is a problem that can and has been solved through less dramatic means.

[-] recapitated@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I would like to hear some encouraging examples for the has part of "can and has". (Bearing in mind the chart from this post)

It seems to me that market forces are in charge of us, and I don't believe we're going to escape the death spiral we're in. I would of course love to be wrong.

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