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[-] pieter91@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago

The fundamental problem is that there’s money to be made by consuming more and more “sustainable” resources. The real solution is to reduce consumption on a global scale.

[-] Lotarion@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

And how do you intend to "reduce consumption", may I inquire?

[-] greyw0lv@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago

Not OC, but some ways to "reduce consumption" are reducing our usage of inefficient technology by replacing it with more energy/resource efficient means.

Examples include replacing individual automobiles with mass transit, building more dense cities to reduce consumption of construction materials/ vehicle miles, and not training massively large language models in facilities that consume more energy than an entire small country.

[-] NomenCumLitteris@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

In real world application, increased efficiency doesn't decrease energy usage nor decrease labor required to live. Tech has gotten more efficient since the industrial revolution, but demand for technology has increased exponentially, energy use is astronomical, and workers still work more hours.

[-] Lotarion@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

... gotta admit this is quite a bit more sound than I anticipated

As for LLMs, people don't really like when others say they can't explore the applications of tech, even if it's unsustainable, so there'f bacaklash ofc

[-] xilona@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

Always I see this kind of "mixed" good/bad points comments. Wonder what it is and where does it come from...

Now to get on track: The topic is simple ANY computer infrastructure CONSUMES a LOT of POWER so if you want to be easy on the PLANET RESOURCES we need to you use it WISELY

Here are some suggestions:

  • stop people surveillange(aka gathering "advertising" data) and data hording from people devices like smartphones, routers, tv, smart anything like your fridge, ai assistant and other useless shit that only SPIES on you/us/me!

  • stopping running companies servers that do nothing and are useless or created for scopes that are not meaningful or that provide a real use;

  • stop creating and working for companies that do not promote/create technologies that support people and their long run sustainability...

...

I can continue with so many examples...

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