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LoglineAn accident with an experimental quantum probability field causes everyone on the USS Enterprise to break uncontrollably into song, but the real danger is that the field is expanding and beginning to impact other ships—allies and enemies alike.


Written by Dana Horgan & Bill Wolkoff

Directed by Dermott Downs

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[-] williams_482@startrek.website 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Touching on the actual character moments for a bit here: the events of this episode do not reflect well on Chapel.

She'd been hitting on Spock literally since the beginning of the show, and openly pining after him for most of that time. Four episodes ago, she winds up breaking down in tears explaining to an alien telephone receptionist how much she cares about him. Two episodes ago she is extremely distraught when Boimler accidentally lets slip that Spock is famous in the future, and her relationship with him almost certainly will not last. And now, she gets into a three month fellowship that she didn't think she had much of a chance at, doesn't say a word to Spock until she has no other choice, and then busts out a (involuntary, but reflective of genuine emotion) musical number about how "free" she feels. What the hell.

We already know Chapel has some problems with commitment, but this is a whole 'nother level. Throwing away a relationship she spent most of this show obsessively wishing for, without any apparent consideration for Spock's feelings or non-breakup solutions to spending a couple months apart, is just wild. I'm sure the finale will touch on this with a little more nuance than a musical number was likely to give, but whatever else is said this is not a good look.

[-] Mezentine@startrek.website 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It doesn't reflect well on her, but it does feel sort of...real, in a way that people can sometimes be shitty in real life. She's tangled herself up emotionally for a long time with someone who for various reasons just isn't going to be a good romantic partner for her, and there's certainly a bit of catharsis in realizing "oh maybe I just can stop trying to make this work and stop feeling bad at how I can't ever seem to make it work". Because the whole Spock thing clearly has been making her miserable, because she loves him but somehow it seems impossible to turn that into a whole emotional relationship. Its just that immediately after that moment, if you really care, you still need to go check on the person you're hurting. I really do hope they get a moment in the next episode to get some actual closure with each other.

[-] r2vq@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago

On top of feeling real, it feels true to the characters that the show has developed over the past two seasons. It's not empathetic of her, but this feels exactly like the Christine we've been shown.

On top of that, it's a good lead up into the awkward relationship we got in TOS between the characters. Where Chapel seemed to sadly crush on Spock from afar.

[-] poundsignbuttstuff@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I interpreted that song very differently. When Boimler spoke with Chapel, she didn't just realize that her and Spock wouldn't be together long term but also realized that Boimler didn't really know her like he knew Spock.

Spock goes on to do amazing things and every detail of his life is recorded in books that people over a century later will read and, essentially, worship him. Chapel isn't even a cliff note. In her mind, she must feel like she makes no difference and gets down on herself. When she gets the fellowship, it renews her confidence and let's her know that there is a whole universe of possibilities in front of her.

That was my interpretation of her feelings in the song but I can see others as reading it differently.

[-] Wyrm@startrek.website 7 points 1 year ago

100% this. At first I was really salty that Chapel would just bail on Spock as soon as something more interesting came along, @williams_482@startrek.website, describes my initial thoughts exactly. Then I remember how Boimler accidentally crushed her, even going so far as to say that Spock does some important things in the future that rely on him behaving very Vulcan.

Imagine how she felt, finally getting the guy you've been pining over only to find out that the universe really needs you two to not be together. Or at least, not be together in the way you wanted to be. We've even seen her struggling with it in the time since Boims spilled the beans. I can totally see why she feels she needs to move on. I don't agree with her "I'll leave you to get ahead" attitude, but I can understand it.

[-] Cantstopthesignal@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 1 year ago

It was my impression that she was so shitty to him because of Boimler's little slip up. She definitely could have been kinder, but she knows she isn't even a blip in Spock's life. I think she feels she might as well move onto something where she can make an impact and be remembered, like her career. She is probably bitter, and it came out that way as we are all so uninhibited when we spontaneously break into song.

[-] TeaHands@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

It does feel very quick, given how long they spent teasing the two of them together. This was one of my problems with s1 as well, starting off character arcs and then wrapping them up way too soon (M'Benga's daughter, for example).

[-] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The main thing that bugged me with M'Benga's daughter is that they've basically just retconned how many people understand the way they can use the transporter buffer that was seemingly novel to the TNG folk when they came across Scotty inside of one during Relics. Geordi was all like "what is going on with this transporter" but this season you have Chapel and M'Benga using it as an active stasis system for triage purposes. (Although now that I read what I wrote, that's just like two more people who know it, and using the Klingon war as a way to establish the knowledge is pretty good.)

Just kind of seems like it would either be more widespread of a use-case in medical scenarios or have some kind of super major drawback in addition to storage capacity like general degradation. Then it would make sense that Scotty pulled another miracle and kept himself from degrading for 100 years.

[-] TheGayTramp@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

I’m fairly certain there was a throwaway line from Scotty about how he tweaked something to keep the buffer running for so long

[-] lowvisnitpicker@startrek.website 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the part that puzzled Geordi was the transporter was able to hold a pattern for nearly 80 years. SNW shows M'Benga had to pull his daughter out periodically to keep her pattern from degrading.

[-] LibraryLass@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago

It does though. As the others said, Scotty did have to jury-rig some modifications for long-term storage and even then he wasn't able to save the other survivor long-term.

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