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[-] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 4 months ago

The problem I had with that scene (and the whole series, really, especially season 3) was that it framed human culture of the future as being generally oppressive and backwards. Acceptance shouldn't be portrayed as radical or exceptional. It should be normal and taken for granted among humans in the future. Like in TOS, Uhura's role was a big deal for viewers specifically because it was not a big deal for the characters. They just showed us a better future, where a black woman in a respected professional position was normal.

Discovery didn't show us a better future. It showed us a shitty future with a handful of decent people in it. This is just one example, but it's one that stuck in my mind as well.

[-] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 3 points 4 months ago

What, in your view, was "exceptional" about Stamets' acceptance in that scene?

[-] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It was presented as exceptional in-universe, from Adira's perspective. The fact that Adira felt weird about it at all paints the culture they grew up in as backwards.

[-] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 2 points 4 months ago

Again, though, that completely removes the context of Adira's character arc.

[-] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 months ago

How so? Perhaps I'm misremembering, but they were born on Earth and raised among humans, right? Does that not say something about the human culture of their time?

[-] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 2 points 4 months ago

They were amnesiac following being joined with the Tal symbiont - they only sorted out these identity issues after Discovery took them to Trill.

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