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Hi German here, we say fuck ICE a lot because it's a fast Train who always comes late. But to make a long story short, I am missing something here, what does ICE stand for?
Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the US. They're basically the ones who raid homes and businesses looking for undocumented workers
And don't forget about separating parents from children, holding illegal immigrants in overcrowded cells made from chain link fences inside buildings.... They are America's version of the Show me your papers patrol.
Blame the parents for not immigrating legally. ICE is there to protect our borders. Want open borders? You can donate your house first. Oh not your house? Then fuck off.
Millions live here legally. "It's hard!" is not an excuse.
Remember, if you want to let other people move, it also automatically gives them the legal right to steal your house and leave you homeless. That's why I'm living under a bridge while a family from Mississippi has taken my house. Its okay though. They were born on the plot of dirt between Canada and Mexico, so really that means they're defending my freedom by stealing my house.
They have to move somewhere right? So why not your house?
Oh right, you're fine with giving away other peoples things.
Just not yours.
Who said anything about giving things away? You just made that up. What, you think immigrants are stealing your jobs and also not paying rent? That's not how thing work in the real world. The only people getting your stuff are the prisons full of innocent people who just wanted a chance at a better life.
Whoops turns out you're ignorant of reality - https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-nyc-migrants-credit-debit-cards-prepaid-240335300869
"The city is launching a pilot program that will provide migrants with prepaid debit cards to buy only food and baby supplies, "
But the Democrats are losing voters in record numbers, they had to do something to make the election rigging in 2025 look plausible. Solution: import millions of 'voters' and give them free shit.
So, food stamps so that people don't starve.....
Oh and just an FYI, immigrants can't vote. Just so you know.
Blame the fact that it's so difficult to immigrate legally yet an overwhelming number of businesses rely on cheap immigrant labor. This is a feature, not a bug, because they can pay the illegal immigrants less and abuse them without fear of reprisal because if the employer gets any attitude about it, they call ICE and have the worker deported and replaced with the next struggling desperate immigrant.
There is no illegal worker in the US that would rather be an illegal worker than a legal carded one. The system is stacked against them because it saves businesses money to do so.
Don't forget to save some blame for the CIA destabilizing South American governments and terrible living conditions for a huge percentage of the population.
South American governments should get their shit together. But they can't and we all know why. Importing that here is like shitting in your pool then wondering why no one want to swim at your pool party.
Yeah we all know why. Because every time someone improves conditions for their citizens and nationalized american industries, they get Allende'd.
It's pretty hard to "get your shit together" when a hegemonic for profits from you not having your shit together.
In the mean time, what should the regular people do? Just keep suffering through society in a chokehold from drug cartels? Keep raising their kids there?
I blame the idiots that think prosperity we enjoy here in the USA is some sort of unlimited resource and that we can just print money when we run out.
Go ahead, print more money. Hope you've already bought your wheelbarrow.
Yes, because naturally no other country in the world enjoys a similar level of prosperity without creating an underclass that they abuse for their profit.
We don't need to print more money, we have more than enough money. We just need to recirculate the money we do have. There is plenty of money in the USA for most citizens to live a comfortable life without exploitation, but 80% of that money is buried in the pockets of corporations and 15% of the remaining 20% is buried in the pockets of billionaires.
There literally isn't. Whine about the percentages all you want. You still have a higher standard of living than literally anywhere else in the world.
Capitalism did that. It's not perfect but it's better than anything else.
Right, so Finland, France, Germany, Norway, New Zealand, Japan, Australia, Korea, Spain, the Netherlands, and Italy all don't exist. Got it.
Just because you don't know about them, doesn't mean they don't exist.
We dont need open borders, we need a immigration system that can deal with the number of people seeking asylum.
You want a steady stream not a flood.
But I get why people risk it to come here. You can walk down the street without worrying about getting killed, kidnapped, tortured, raped.... How about we send some of that 895 billion of pentagon dollars to Mexico for law enforcement instead. Like 10 billion, 1 jet fighter. Make Mexico safe for civilians, create job opportunities, and illegal immigration will slow.