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Democrats worry their most loyal voters won’t turn out for Biden in 2024
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Mother fucker if Biden is the not-Trump option then you better vote for his senior citizen ass. Elections have consequences. Be idealistic in the primary but for fucks sake vote logically on election day.
Staying home or voting 3rd part/write in is a vote for Trump and is indirect violence against your fellow citizens and others around the world. How many more people would be alive today if we didn't have Trump purposely providing bad COVID information?
Lives are literally at stake. Hold your nose and pull the correct lever. It's simple harm reduction.
The maybe they should let us, I don't know, vote in a primary election for the person we want to run as the Democrat nominee?? Just forcing Biden on us, like wtf?
Remember Bernie, both times?
Well, like someone else said, vote for Bernie or whoever you like in the primaries, then go cast your anti-Trump vote on election day. If Trump gets back in you'll never get the opportunity to vote in real presidential election again.
If Trump gets back in, America failed, not me. And I'm the fuck off to Canada.
Not voting for a senior citizen.
You, and everyone with your mindset, will have failed America.
No, see, that's not how democracy works.
That's how our FPTP system works. Twist yourself into a pretzel all you want. The reality is, if you want to preserve a functioning democracy in this country and have even the slightest chance of improving it one day, you have only one real option (hint: it's not a third party and it's definitely not the orange fascist).
No, I'm saying the people voting for who they want and it leading to a failure of the nation is not a failure of the voters, it's a failure of the system. It is a failure of the nation and it is a failure of democracy.
The system will fail eventually regardless tbh. I understand your plight. These political discussions really make me lose faith in people entirely. I didn't vote my entire life I said fuck this. I vote now only because I have the privilege to get to the ballot. The DNC seems shady. I'm thinking about just running for local office, but I'd probably get arrested tbh. I fully agree with you though. The system is rigged by definition. I've seen enough of the interworkings to be utterly disillusioned. But we are only a few people bringing light to a very dark place. It will take time that frankly we probably dont have. Stay alive!
That's how democracy fails
It's a lot harder to get into Canada than you think.
lol not for me.
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You think Canada is just going to take all the Americans who want to leave? That's not how it works.
LOL you're stuck here and don't even realize it yet.
Tough shit, homie. That's not your call.
I think part of the reason why people feel they don't have a choice is because the DNC seems to have just chosen biden instead of letting any other democratic candidate have a chance at the nominee.
If you even have the privilege to vote. Lol.
no, it's not. it's abstaining or voting for someone who isn't trump.
you don't seem to know what harm reduction means.
If a candidate wants my vote, they need to earn it. I've done enough of voting against, and from now on I'm only voting for.
What I see is that Democrats can't put up any candidates who are actually worth voting for and then to top it off they push insulting slogans like "Vote Blue No Matter Who." If other Democratic voters really want to swallow that with no pushback, that is their business. But I'm not doing it anymore.
But don't you dare go and demand who I vote for while claiming the consequences of not would result in some imagined violence. It's bad enough when the DNC is lying to me but then I have to read nonsense takes of Liberals making threats because they've scared themselves to death with their own propaganda.
It's not imagined. It's already happened and you still don't care. Is voting really that difficult for you? Hundreds of millions of people but you'll only participate if the leader of everyone gets to be your first pick. That's some childish shit right there.
No, i dont think I'll hold my nose. They want the vote... earn it...
This is the reason Rs keep winning, this attitude
And Democrats' refusal to accept that there are voters with this attitude and adapt.
Yeah, this attitude of the democrats who think they can coast on their opponents being worse than them. Repbulicans actually give their voters what they want.
While I disagree with what Republican voters want, you're 100% right.
Democrats tried with Bernie. And their constituents said "Fuck yeah! Let's go!"
The DNC said "Best I can do is a family dynasty, here's Hillary."
Then again, "Hmm, remember Obama? How about his VP? He's more like Bernie than Hillary in that he is also old and white, is this what you wanted?"
Mother fucker, no. I'll vote how I want, and not how some one else tells me.
That's what makes it my vote.
That's how you piss away your vote and end up with a second Trump term...
It's also how you get no climate action.
Not voting for a senior citizen. Go cast your own vote and quit telling people how to cast theirs.
Um... Inflation Reduction Act?
I just think it's tremendously stupid to attack the Democratic party from the left and then cast a vote (or fail to vote altogether) that makes it more likely to end up with a Republican government that is even further right. Seriously. It's fucking braindead. Your options are mildly left, or far right. Far left ain't on the table. So pick the mildly left. Then in the next PRIMARY, vote far left (or young, whatever it is you want).
cornel west is probably going to be on my ballot.
Where the fuck did I attack the Democratic party?
I said I'm not voting for senior citizens, or fascists.
Fucking learn to read before you come out swinging, dingus.
Falsely implying there has been no climate action, vehemently opposing their candidate over his age, and refusing to vote for them seems a bit aggro toward the party 🤷♂️
Doing too little too late is about as good as no climate action. Democrats' solution is to throw money at private entities who are looking to maximize profits, not saving the environment.
We failed to declare a climate emergency. I don't trust senior citizens to make the right calls about our future.
Again, I am attacking senior citizens in office. I am saying I won't vote for them.
I don't care how you feel about that. I'm not sure why you think I do.
I don't expect you to give a shit about my feelings. Was just hoping maybe you or someone reading this might come around to the idea that realistically, there are only two ~~options~~ outcomes, and we should avoid the fascistic one at all costs.
For the record, my feelings are that I'd really like to see younger people in office too, but I'm not gonna shoot myself (and the country) in the foot over it.