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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by ptz@dubvee.org to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world

Kbin/Mbin (and possibly others?) definitely have the edge here since those platforms make votes public (only admins can see them on Lemmy). So, if you want to confirm what I'm saying here, go view some of these posts from Kbin/Mbin.

Every time one of the "usual suspects" says stuff like this in the comments, there will later be posts detailing how Biden is doing (or at least earnestly trying to do) exactly the things they're saying he needs to be doing (oR ElSe i WiLl noT voTE anD NEithER ShoULD yoU!!!11!!). 100% of the time, those posts are downvoted by these same "usual suspect" accounts.

What gives? They have very strong opinions about how he should run his administration, so you'd think they'd appreciate him doing what they've been so helpfully suggesting. Unless....it was never about the issues at all.

That thin veneer of concern they're hiding behind is not as thick as they think it is and is quite easy to see through. Now you know where to look.

Edit: Please don't name and shame any specific users. That may violate the community or LW rules. We all know who most of the "usual suspects" are.

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[-] TOModera@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Wrong? No. But I would warn, as a fellow Canadian myself, that it didn't totally fix the problem.

Pierre Polievre (current right wing leader who walked with the Trucker convoy) is probably going to win at least a minority, and the more right wing parts of my family can't hide their hope he "finally helps the majority, rather then all these minorities getting help."

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

If he wins a minority he has to partner with another party to form government.

He's been shit talking them all so they probably are going to tell him to fuck his hat.

[-] HomerianSymphony@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

If he wins a minority he has to partner with another party to form government.

No, that's not how it works in Canada. By convention, whichever party has the most seats in parliament forms government, even they don't have a majority.

In theory, the other parties could form a coalition (giving them a majority of seats), but Canada has no tradition of that and the last time a group of parties proposed doing that, it led to a constitutional crisis.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

That's not entirely correct, you have to be able to get a majority of votes during Matters of Confidence and if you don't you have to call a general election.

[-] HomerianSymphony@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

Yes, but by convention, MPs will give a vote of confidence to the leader of whichever party gets the most seats.

That's why I said "by convention".

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

If he wins a minority he has to partner with another party to form government.

Yes, but by convention, MPs will give a vote of confidence to the leader of whichever party gets the most seats.

By convention they partner. But usually there is a bit of respect between them and Pierre is pissing everyone off.

So if no one else with partner with him he can not form government.

[-] HomerianSymphony@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

By convention they partner.

There is no such convention.

Sometimes they can make a deal with minor parties to ensure they have confidence and can pass supply bills (a confidence-and-supply agreement, like Trudeau and Jagmeet have now), but they usually don’t. And that's why minority governments usually don't last long in Canada. (Typically no longer than two years.)

Stephen Harper's minority government didn't have a confidence-and-supply deal. They stayed in power because the Liberals would abstain on confidence motions (until they didn't).

[-] TOModera@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

Or the liberals will join up with him and they'll just make sure no one hurts the corporations they were paid by.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Let’s keep this grounded in reality, okay?

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