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this post was submitted on 27 Jun 2024
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Certain outsiders aside, Democrats are really good about getting their shit together behind closed doors.
So I think the convention will be pretty boring. The closed room meetings and email chains are batshit insane and someone is going to make bank on a tell-all book when they leak that.... assuming literacy is not illegal by that point.
That said: We can't get rid of Biden. He can't "run away" from trump and we still had a pretty good four years all points considered. But we need to replace Kamala. Even ignoring that significant parts of the country hate her because she is brown, asian, and a woman, she is also a cop and has done nothing to really build her profile.
So make up an excuse for Kamala to need to step aside and get someone more charismatic as the VP. Basically what the republicans tried with mccain (ugh) and palin (ugh!). This immediately makes people a lot more comfortable with "what if Biden dies?" but also builds up a candidate for 2028.
I'm tired of hearing of this "behind closed doors" place where Democrats become opposite day versions of themselves.
You bring up a point there that I have not seen many people consider: Where is Kamala Harris in all this? And from the outside it is as simple as that.
A friend in Europe said: Biden is everywhere but we never see or hear from the VP. In this time of big elections I find that odd.
I don't believe that many voters like closed door conspiring
If it were June of 2023? This would go to the primaries.
It is June of 2024. There is no time for a vote. So all having shouting matches and screaming about how Biden is unelectable on camera does is fuck the party as a whole. See: 2016
Yeah I agree there's no time for primaries, I was just responding to that isolated statement- not saying its never useful.
I mean... for anything but the primaries (so basically candidate selection), there is zero benefit to publicizing that. NOBODY will benefit from "Yes, I agree that UBI and climate change are essential to focus on but we need to get this bill through before all of our airports collapse. We'll focus on that later" being a public discussion.
Also... if people ARE interested in those discussions? Work with your local party. You would be shocked at how many fairly low level organizers end up getting on the various calls related to defining a platform.
Like, the internet loves to paint the DNC as this evil shadow organization (mostly for reasons dating back to 2015/16...). And there is definitely a lot of politicking between the politicians (gasp!). But if you put in the time you would be shocked how much of a voice "community organizers" have if they have even basic social skills.