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[-] Tilgare@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Capitalism loves unfettered, infinite growth. This is such a small minded, short term mindset. I much prefer a "controlled and sustainable" growth approach. Liberals are trying to build an equitable country for all of us and our progeny, the other side is trying to cash out before it all comes crashing down. It's disgusting. But history repeats itself, because humans are the common factor and humans, broadly, suck.

[-] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 months ago

You can’t say Liberals are trying to build an equitable country when they clearly are not, while trying to pin the blame on “humans”.

Humans are not the problem, capitalism is the problem. The capitalist system is working exactly as intended - putting all the wealth in the hands of a few men while making slaves of the rest of us.

You cannot build an equitable or sustainable society in the capitalist system. It will always lead to fascism and ruin.

The capitalism that the Liberals love is the same capitalism that the Republicans love. It doesn’t make much difference if you stick a rainbow flag on it. There is no nice version of capitalism. There’s nothing “controlled or sustainable” about neoliberal capitalism.

Please stop trying to blame humans for being forced with violence, homelessness, and starvation to try to survive in a cannibalistic system that forces people to become greedy. I’m tired of hearing the Malthusian untrue “humans suck” meme. Humans learn from the conditions they are raised in. There is nothing inherently greedy in humans. That is purely conditioning. If we lived in a society that rewarded cooperation and didn’t threaten us with homelessness and death for not being obedient slaves we would be cooperative and have the possibility to work toward building a sustainable society.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Humans are not the problem, capitalism is the problem.

Oh yes, that magical system that was created by ghosts or ghouls or something other than a human.

Humans are the problem and have always been the problem. Hell, we even invented the word problem to describe all of the problems we have, and cause!

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