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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/lgbtq_plus@lemmy.blahaj.zone

I tried to ask a another youtuber Living Anachronism who has worked with Shadiversity if he knew about Shad's homophobic content & the mod delete my question, told me asking about that was against the no drama rule, that it wasn't homophobic & proceeded to try to gaslight me with pseudo-intellectual bullshit.

I'm tired of bringing thing up in non queer spaces only to be told that's it not actually homophobic.

The original video I referred to:https://youtu.be/GiyMDN9j2OU?si=bDqnc1pCG8t3HASp

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[-] elbucho@lemmy.world 45 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'm an elder Gen X. Who are these people? Why should I care about them? Does their limited literacy and obvious homophobia have an impact on the wider world in general?

Edit: Sorry; I didn't notice the youtube link initially. I am shame.

Anyway, I'm like 30 seconds in now, and it's two fucking morons in shitty Costume City versions of chain mail talking about issues they're wildly unfamiliar with, and somehow they've got, like, 100k followers? WTF? Am I just taking crazy pills?

Edit edit: So, like, are these chodes like the Australian version of Andrew Taint?

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 24 points 4 months ago

Shad is Australian and his politics are shitty, but he's not an Andrew Taint if only because his influence is miniscule outside of the niche of people interested in medieval weaponry but not interested enough in that to actually go out and join a HEMA or SCA or similar club (because just about the first thing you'll learn if you do join a HEMA club is how shitty his opinions about history are...in addition to his modern-day political opinions).

[-] negativenull@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

I believe he's Mormon as well, which is where some homophobia could come from.

[-] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago

That would explain a lot of things. The best thing to do is disassociate from anyone on social media who is Mormon. Every subscriber and like just reinforces the notion that they are doing Gods work in every aspect.

[-] elbucho@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Oh, trust me - I wasn't putting his shitty views on the HEMA community in general. I'm friends with a couple of people who like to put armor on and bash the shit out of eachother. I don't understand it, but they're good people, and they wouldn't do shitty things like gaybash, like these fucking chodes are doing. So basically, they're, like, right-wing LARPers? Like, they strongly identify with the crusades because they want to fantasize about killing people different from them?

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 4 months ago

Oh yeah sorry I didn't think that you were doing that at all. All I thought you were doing was accidentally overstating Shad's relevance by comparing him to Tate. Like, Tate is broadly popular among reactionaries and conservatives. Shad just appeals to quite a niche audience who either don't know about or who agrees with his politics, and who are into the history thing.

But then also, his audience is limited by the fact that even if you completely ignore his political beliefs, his actual content is bad. It limits his appeal a lot because even conservative HEMA people (and unfortunately there definitely are some very racist conservatives who like HEMA for the reason your describe) don't like his uneducated bad takes about fighting. He does well only with people who don't know better.

[-] elbucho@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Yeah, that's fair. I mean, I hadn't heard of this idiot, and I've heard of Andrew Tate, so I didn't place them on equivalent footing in any sense other than ideology. And yes - I'm a big fan of map painting games, like EU4, and the sheer quantity of people who are overtly racist in that community is fucking staggering, so I get it.

[-] Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This is relevant for qweer people who are involved in the hobbies that these youtuber are involved with & they deserve to know.

Edit: I response just as you edited. The Shad guy wrote a shitty novel & has a dieing channel on medieval fantasy.

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