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[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago

I'm supportive of trans people's rights to be left the fuck alone, and to be treated equally. But I also get that there need to be safe spaces for women to exist without some shadow-of-a-doubt in the back of their mind. Yes, that's exclusionary, but remember the "Man vs Bear" debate a few months back? There are lots of women who are legitimately less trusting of men than they are a wild animal who will maul your face off.

Yeah, I'm harsh with the way that I put things. I understand that; it's a result of the harsh environment I grew up in as a kid. People who were raised more tenderly probably don't like the way I speak about things. But I DO support LGBTQ individuals and their right to not be discriminated against; as best as I can reconcile that with my belief that women need places they can escape men entirely if needed.

[-] RedSeries@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

There are lots of women who are legitimately less trusting of men than they are a wild animal who will maul your face off.

I'm not a man, and your original comment seems to agree with that, but this says otherwise. You would never use this excuse if you actually saw trans women as women.

as best as I can reconcile that with my belief that women need places they can escape men entirely if needed.

Then you should understand why I, a trans woman, would like to be included in the space matching my gender.

I grew up being taught to give guidance and tolerance to those who are ignorant or bigoted, but this is the end of my rope. Do better.

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