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[–] Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 167 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Some people will tell you, "Well ackshually it was for states' rights," but those states wanted to use those rights to enforce slavery.

It strikes me as like the "guns don't kill people, people kill people" argument. Like, wow, you're totally right about the semantics, but at the cost of missing the point entirely.

[–] Shanedino@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also the people kill people thing points to a need for widespread free mental health services which they definitely don't support.

[–] netvor@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

people kill people

I know! Le'ts ban murder then! That'll fix it!

(oh wait...)

[–] acetanilide@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

In my area, they say they support it but in the same breath will say they don't believe in therapy or medications.

Source: my very Republican family

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly as a non american I always thought the point of that statement was that its not guns that kill people its the way you hand them out like candy with the barest excuse for any kind of safety evaluation that kills people.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, it's the idea that people who are murderous will kill no matter what.. missing the point that it's harder for them to do that successfully if they don't have guns.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 4 points 1 year ago

This is a very good argument for disarming the government.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly. The Confederate States' Constitution explicitly mentions and regulates slavery throughout the document.

It was 100% about slavery.

Anyone who says "states' rights" without mentioning slavery is either an ignorant turd or a racist POS.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

It is was not 100% about slavery. It's worse than that because it was also about the fear of treating black people like political equals, and black men having sex with their pure white daughters.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

States rights to do what? (⌐▀͡ ̯ʖ▀)︻̷┻̿═━一-

People kill people with what? (⌐▀͡ ̯ʖ▀)︻̷┻̿═━一-

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

... and free states were forced to arrest and ship off people who'd escaped slavery.

Conservatives don't mean things when they say words.