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[-] RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 50 points 3 months ago

I saw a person here in western europe with a trump flag... A giant fucking trump flag hanging out their apartment window... These people are absolutely fucked in the head.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 3 months ago

By chance, is flying the Nazi flag illegal in your country?

My guess is that the Trump flag is the dog whistle

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 3 months ago

I think the only place where flying the Nazi flag is actually illegal is Germany.

Personally I think it should be perfectly legal to fly the Nazi flag. If only so that the rest of the population knows who you are.

[-] laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The problem is not flying the flag. The problem is what flying the flag does: spreading the message and emboldening those who would otherwise be harmless. Or worse, recruit impressionable folks.

So you cut that shit right off the bud before it spreads.

It's like cancer. You don't reason with cancer. You don't say "you have the right to do your thing, but get along with the rest of me, yes?" You cut that shit off right away.

[-] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

But then we didn't stomp it all out and the cancer becomes trump flags that sprout and grow like weeds.

[-] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago

otherwise be harmless

Gonna have to disagree with you on that one.

[-] laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I'm not saying that everyone will psychopathic tendencies would be harmless; but definitely way less.

Let's put it this way, although I concede that it's not a perfect analogy: those stats about the risk of death increasing in a household after someone in it purchases a gun? Same deal. The father, the son, the daughter may think "I'm going to kill this mf one day!!" But that day never comes. Oh, but a gun is all of a sudden available? It's very easy, in those circumstances, for someone with those thoughts to just go get it a brandish it.

How about the reverse, when it actually is something positive? In my hometown in the late 90s, people started complaining that "so many gays invaded our city." Nope, "them gays" were always in the city, in the closet. Then a new message, spread through the internet, saying that it was okay to be gay. And people realized, "hey there's actually many more of us in our city. I'm not alone!" and they were emboldened to just come out of the closet. That's a positive situation, like I said.

[-] ImpressiveEssay@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I find it interesting to see someone 'admit,' that humans can't be trusted to be reasoned with... It's an interesting perspective, that's for sure.

America in recent years backs up your point. Have you lived in other developed countries though?

[-] laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yes, I've lived in Europe. And no, this is not an America problem. It's a humanity problem.

Christianity, the nazis, Scientology, "the Swifties," the countless sects, schemes like Herbalife and their "cult of success," hell, the sports fans willing to beat up others because they use a shirt of a different color!

You use the term "interesting" as if it was a very novel concept. It isn't. Or am I wrong for having perceived it that way?

For example: sex offenders are a global thing. Go to freaking Stavanger, Norway, and you'll find people you can't reason with about "rape bad, m'kay?"

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

It makes perfect sense when you realize that Trump is a symbol to international fascists. Let's not forget that after 2016 the world shifted significantly to the right, and had normalized fascist rhetoric to 30% of the population in one of the largest nations in the world

[-] msage@programming.dev 12 points 3 months ago

after 2016 the ~~world shifted significantly to the right~~ fascists declared themselves openly

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Fascism is a result of decaying capitalism, people didn't become fascist because Trump was elected. The conditions for fascism appeared in the US and other countries simultaneously, because the world economy is interconnected.

[-] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah and that's not even really a political statement, that's a dog whistle flag, that person is an asshole and sees themselves in Trump

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