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Do polls make anyone else unreasonably angry?
Unless it's 20 points, I can't fathom how that many people support Trump. He never says anything of value in any speech. There's no platform to support. He just needs power to avoid criminal consequences, and half the country is good with that.
Who answers these polls?
What percentage of the population?
What age groups?
What states?
Are these people who have answered polls in the past are on a list to call for other polls?
You only have to look back to the 2020 election or the support for Trump-loving Republicans in 2022 to recognize that there are still a ton of people who support that dumbass crook.
I wonder how many would actually support him if they weren’t watching Fox News.
That is absolutely a huge part of the problem. As it was intended to be.
Who, here, has been "polled" in the past 10 years?
I have. But a big part of that is that I respond to polls. I use to work for a survey call center and I know that kind of hell it is and how much completed surveys can improve their pay for the next month, so I tend to do them if they call me.
Sociology major. We call it researcher's guilt.
I initially thought I had been. Like the other person commenting, I realize that completed surveys are good for the poor schmuck working in the call center. But a few questions in, the questions themselves became extremely biased. Like "were you aware that [Dem local candidate] voted in support of the LGBT agenda?" type shit. And then the "pollster" asked some questions that mentioned local towns in rural Minnesota - completely mispronounced. I asked where the caller was located. It turns out the local GOP candidate hired a call center in New York.
I don't answer phone surveys anymore.
Yeah, those questions are the only the only way I stay sane. I've never been asked to participate in a poll so I have to assume the demographics are biased toward specific groups, like people who answer land line phones.
They are and is why polling has been broken
Yeah pretty much.
Something like 30% of your compatriots are mindless automatons. Only reason I’m not angry is because I’m desensitized to it. I have written down that fraction of America, those retrograde degenerates, since the early 2000s.
How big is MAGA really? It cannot be half the country.
This one is especially dumb. And I think tells the story people keep repeating about not trusting any of these polls. Because the news wants a horse race.
In aggregated data, as of April 2020, Biden was 2% ahead of Trump in New Hampshire. Then 8% ahead by August. Then 11% ahead in October. Ended up beating Trump by 8% in the actual New Hampshire vote.
This year Biden was 2% ahead in May. Harris is supposedly 8% ahead now. That will continue to diverge and I'd bet land around 11% ahead again by October.
This is the news slow walking that Trump is still more popular than he really is to keep things interesting.