1149
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 28 Jul 2024
1149 points (97.6% liked)
Enough Musk Spam
2240 readers
9 users here now
For those that have had enough of the Elon Musk worship online.
No flaming, baiting, etc. This community is intended for those opposed to the influx of Elon Musk-related advertising online. Coming here to defend Musk or his companies will not get you banned, but it likely will result in downvotes. Please use the reporting feature if you see a rule violation.
Opinions from all sides of the political spectrum are welcome here. However, we kindly ask that off-topic political discussion be kept to a minimum, so as to focus on the goal of this sub. This community is minimally moderated, so discussion and the power of upvotes/downvotes are allowed, provided lemmy.world rules are not broken.
Post links to instances of obvious Elon Musk fanboy brigading in default subreddits, lemmy/kbin communities/instances, astroturfing from Tesla/SpaceX/etc., or any articles critical of Musk, his ideas, unrealistic promises and timelines, or the working conditions at his companies.
Tesla-specific discussion can be posted here as well as our sister community /c/RealTesla.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
Ah, see, that trick isn't going to work on me because I know what you're doing. Earlier in this conversation I said voting is the thing you do if you care about middle eastern lives. You didn't challenge me on that. You were very argumentative, but you didn't question that assertion. That's because the evidence is in my favour. You ignored me saying that to avoid drawing attention to it. Then, when it seemed forgotten, you suddenly went on the attack and called me a racist, and said being a centrist is what you do if you care about Palestinians. That's not true. If you abstain, you risk Trump bombing the West Bank. If you vote for Kamala, she forces Netanyahu to agree to a ceasefire and stop the deaths in Gaza.
You didn't defend yourself when I called you a racist because you don't have a defence. You only have an attack. You can call me a racist using your clown logic, but you can't argue against the fact that your choice kills more Palestinians. You're just trying to attack harder than I did and hope I make myself look guilty by denying it. Well, my defence is very simple, I'm trying to stop the genocide. And you're choosing to do absolutely nothing to prevent the genocide from getting worse.
I'm not going to challenge every baseless assertion you make, such as calling me a racist because I'm not voting for democrats. You have an unlimited capacity to vomit bullshit, I'll be here all day.
Trump was in office for 4 years and there was no genocide in Gaza, he's talking shit now - he's also a prodigious liar.
doubt - why would she have a change of heart after gaining more power?
Is soulism really just making up bullshit and asserting it confidently in hopes that other people are so enamored they join your cult too? lmao
Go organize against your own government ethnically cleaning indigenous people if you want to be useful, you aren't stopping shit by crying about an election you aren't participating in.
So your argument right now is that Trump is less genocidal than Kamala? You're saying abstaining is the correct decision in terms of lives lost, and specifically in terms of the tangible outcome, because Trump is less likely to fund or participate in Netanyahu's genocide than Kamala Harris?
I'm voting for PSL, and I would say that everyone else who can, should.
The democrats have just proven to all of us that they are willing to assist in a genocide if it's politically expedient. Why should I as a trans person not expect to be next on the chopping block as soon as the democrats determine it's politically inconvenient to protect my rights?
I'm not pretending that republicans are not worth contempt; frankly it's beneath that for me. However I don't view the democrats as faithful actors. The democrats are extremely willing to implement a republican agenda and warmonger. Trans rights and quality of care has been eroding under Biden/Kamala even in blue states.
Okay, so I said abstaining increases the amount of genocide, voting D decreases it. You said that's not true, Trump wouldn't bomb West Bank. I pressed you to state it explicitly, you walked that claim back. I am now going to treat the debate on D being better than R as settled.
America uses the First Past The Post voting system. FPTP suffers from the spoiler effect, which guarantees that regardless of your political affiliation or the specifics of the situation, voting third party always harms your interests. This has been mathematically and experimentally proven. Voting third party is, in terms of consequences, the same as abstaining.
Therefore, in terms of consequences, you are risking more Palestinian lives than I am.
citation needed lmao
democrats: genocide with pinkwashing
republicans: genocide with magawashing
yes, another baseless assertion. here's what you're communicating to me: "my enemy is ontologically evil therefor anything other than supporting me is increasing harm".
The most notable genocide that's happened in the last decade has been with Democrats willingly participating.
Our presidential election is completely independent of the popular vote, I am participating in it because it's what we have, however you are kidding yourself if you think my vote has any influence on which genocidal maniac ends up at the helm.
You are Canadian and babyraging that people in a country you don't live in are not taking your political input seriously.