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Oh sure, I mean I wish it could be the case. I was more speaking from our reality and the situation, which is that education ends at grade 12. For anybody over the age of 18, there's no legal requirement to learn unless you go out of your way to get a license for it (which is pretty much... Your driver's license). How do we practically teach an entire country that is not in school? And these days we have the whole "Can it even be trusted?" group. How do we teach the elderly who have trouble using smart phones how to verify if it's an AI image or not? And most of all, if it is saying something you are agreeing with, is there even a point in going to verify it at all? People may just not care in the first place.
When I was in school we had some classes on internet education, and I had tech savvy parents (young in the '90s), and I remember the checklist of getting your information on the internet. It was taught for a while, I'm sure it still is, but so few people actually take the time to go through each cited source and find the author and every little aspect to verify its trustworthiness.
And now it's been 20 years and basically everything is taken at face value on the internet, over time the rational content being littered with irrational information. I mean, forwardsfromGrandma and those "Post this to your wall so your niece doesn't die tonight" chain e-mails-turned-Facebook posts. I've also just personally felt a significant downtrend in media literacy and critical thinking skills overall, which also makes it hard to find hope sometimes. It would have to be a system more fleshed out than posting a checksum to validate because scammers are going to scam and they'll find ways to give you their MD5 to validate against their checksum, and now we just have a verification system as complicated as the U.S. tax code.
So despite how much I want us to be able to find a solution, I'm just not entirely convinced that in a country with a decimated education system and a historical lack of interest in internet and computer literacy is going to have any major reform any time soon. Of course, that said, there was that recent deepfake bill passed unanimously, and so I think legislature will be implemented over time, I just am... Uncertain as to how it would be available to anyone who isn't currently enrolled in school, which happens to be most of the population. And this is just the U.S.! Although I have a feeling most of the rest of the world will have not so big of an issue with finding an implementation.
I'm usually not so defeatist, I'm usually even pret seeing what steps would need to be taken to resolve problems. It's just that this isn't something that is intentionally designed to support companies that can make money off, like the tax code. I mean, that would effectively be whatever skunk Sam Altman proposed. In this case, it is the entire world needing to be able to distinguish reality from manufactured content, all while anyone with a GPU is able to create it.
All in all, I absolutely agree that we have to find a way to incorporate proper verification into our critical thinking skills, but my point is that those skills are what are failing and have been on the decline, and states like Florida, Arizona, Ohio, Idaho are trying to ensure that continues for our youth in those areas. Thus, if we can't even trust states to educate our children properly, how will we educate the average American on something that is a moderately complex topic. Moreover, it has to be simple, because there is no way people will attempt to validate their content if it's like filing taxes every time you scroll to the next reel/short, and there's no guarantee that they would even care in the first place. There are just a lot of factors that I find make it more difficult than most problems to effectively solve