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[-] coldy@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This almost reads like satire in the context of my previous comment. I say you paint with too broad a stroke and don't engage with communist ideas but only with a subset, you double down. I say liberals can't grapple with the inherent flaws of the system and are unwilling to think outside it, you demonstrate it.

Where do you think you got the ideas for worker's rights and heavy taxation of the wealthy? You think social democracy isn't just one facet of the socialist critique of capitalism? You think you just fell out of the coconut tree?

I have no interest in adjuticating your point of view seeing as you're unwilling to enage with mine, but the fact that you think all communists are marxist-leninists is comical. Even more, there are plenty of communists who aren't even marxists. And not just communists, the whole left of liberal space is far more diverse than that. There's anarchists, there's anarcho-communists, there's mutualists, syndicalists, on and on we go. There have been decades upon decades of work and thought put into the current, and it looks far more different than you could apparently fathom.

Once again, I ask you to stop looking at what internet ML chambers and anti-communist propaganda claims communism to be. There's a lot more out there that you might perhaps agree with, if you were willing to engage in anything more than milquetoast tweaks to an inherently unjust system.

[-] Comment105@lemm.ee -1 points 3 months ago

I say specifically Marx gets credit, but he is not a man with endless brilliant solutions.

And the communists I talk about are the ones I see. The core of the movement. That includes the majority that are much more ignorant than I, whose main interest in these ideologies is purely vibes and aesthetics with a couple of arguments stored away in the back of their mind.

Not the niche thinkers who most of them haven't read.

These are our letters to eachother. Conversations that may as well find an audience of one as a million. Those who print their words on paper are not nearly as prolific as those who share them freely in this environment.

You lose modern politics reliably because you do not understand them. Your only surviving stock to champion the cause are either small and struggling, or they are no longer your champions at all. The movement never lasts, because it's passionate, but stupid.

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