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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by poVoq@slrpnk.net to c/solarpunk@slrpnk.net

Note: their definition of "community" is quite problematic in many ways...

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[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago

create free facilities and let communities form themselves.

They don't form themselves (or at least that's a rare exception), and I think by now the teenagers are so fixated on online interactions that they will have a hard time adapting to, let alone create such spaces themselves.

[-] hackersquirrel@gnulinux.social 0 points 1 month ago

@poVoq
Have you ever seen a Makerspace or Hackerspace? Youth are just fine at creating community when they have the resources.
@Taleya @solarpunk

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The very act of providing space and resources means that it didn't create itself.

There are rare exceptions where the community came first and they managed to acquire the space and resources later, but most of these places were quite intentionally set up to foster a community around them.

[-] hackersquirrel@gnulinux.social 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

@poVoq
That's not how i3Detroit started. It began with a group having an idea and making it happen.
You seem to assume that they couldn't achieve something unless someone gave them a handout. The commercial makerspaces showed up later.
Expecting them to create without resources is like expecting a crop without planting seeds.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago

I explicitly said that there are rare exceptions 🤷‍♂️ And no one even mentioned commercial makerspaces.

Please don't assume that others assume things they neither said nor implied.

[-] hackersquirrel@gnulinux.social 0 points 1 month ago

@poVoq
Okay. You win the internet.
I have no idea what you're implying, assuming or using as a metric for what is rare or not.

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