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[-] sudo@programming.dev 74 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Patrol Cop once told me a joke about how he ran over a black kids bike. When got back to the station he saw the kid at the desk trying to report the incident. He'd carried his busted up bike the entire way. The cop behind the desk called out "Hey Rob, did you run over this kid's bike?". "Nope". Case closed. No report filed.

Edit: PS: This was one of the "good ones". He voted Clinton in 2016 because the rival faction in the Union was showing up to Trump rallies in class A's. Took him the entire Trump admin but he works retail now.

[-] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 52 points 5 months ago

How the fuck is that a joke?

[-] Llamalitmus@lemmy.ca 36 points 5 months ago

Aristocrats!

[-] sudo@programming.dev 13 points 5 months ago

It was funny to him. It was the moment he realized he could get away with crime.

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[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago

That's the sadism they are best at.

[-] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago

Hello, you seem to be referencing an often misquoted statistic. TL:DR; The 40% number is wrong and plain old bad science. In attempt to recreate the numbers, by the same researchers, they received a rate of 24%, but only while considering acts like shouting as violence. Further researchers found rates of 7%, 7.8%, 10%, and 13% with stricter definitions and better research methodology.

The 40% claim is intentionally misleading and unequivocally inaccurate. Numerous studies over the years report domestic violence rates in police families as low as 7%, with the highest at 40% defining violence to include shouting or a loss of temper. The referenced study where the 40% claim originates is Neidig, P.H.., Russell, H.E. & Seng, A.F. (1992). Interspousal aggression in law enforcement families: A preliminary investigation. It states:

Survey results revealed that approximately 40% of the participating officers reported marital conflicts involving physical aggression in the previous year.

There are a number of flaws with the aforementioned study:

The study includes as 'violent incidents' a one time push, shove, shout, loss of temper, or an incidents where a spouse acted out in anger. These do not meet the legal standard for domestic violence. This same study reports that the victims reported a 10% rate of physical domestic violence from their partner. The statement doesn't indicate who the aggressor is; the officer or the spouse. The study is a survey and not an empirical scientific study. The “domestic violence” acts are not confirmed as actually being violent. The study occurred nearly 30 years ago. This study shows minority and female officers were more likely to commit the DV, and white males were least likely. Additional reference from a Congressional hearing on the study: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=umn.31951003089863c

An additional study conducted by the same researcher, which reported rates of 24%, suffer from additional flaws:

The study is a survey and not an empirical scientific study. The study was not a random sample, and was isolated to high ranking officers at a police conference. This study also occurred nearly 30 years ago.

More current research, including a larger empirical study with thousands of responses from 2009 notes, 'Over 87 percent of officers reported never having engaged in physical domestic violence in their lifetime.' Blumenstein, Lindsey, Domestic violence within law enforcement families: The link between traditional police subculture and domestic violence among police (2009). Graduate Theses and Dissertations. http://scholarcommons.usf.edu/etd/1862

Yet another study "indicated that 10 percent of respondents (148 candidates) admitted to having ever slapped, punched, or otherwise injured a spouse or romantic partner, with 7.2 percent (110 candidates) stating that this had happened once, and 2.1 percent (33 candidates) indicating that this had happened two or three times. Repeated abuse (four or more occurrences) was reported by only five respondents (0.3 percent)." A.H. Ryan JR, Department of Defense, Polygraph Institute “The Prevalence of Domestic Violence in Police Families.” http://webapp1.dlib.indiana.edu/virtual_disk_library/index.cgi/4951188/FID707/Root/New/030PG297.PDF

Another: In a 1999 study, 7% of Baltimore City police officers admitted to 'getting physical' (pushing, shoving, grabbing and/or hitting) with a partner. A 2000 study of seven law enforcement agencies in the Southeast and Midwest United States found 10% of officers reporting that they had slapped, punched, or otherwise injured their partners. L. Goodmark, 2016, BRIGHAM YOUNG UNIVERSITY LAW REVIEW “Hands up at Home: Militarized Masculinity and Police Officers Who Commit Intimate Partner Abuse “. https://digitalcommons.law.umaryland.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2519&context=fac_pubs

[-] kungen@feddit.nu 14 points 5 months ago

TL;DR: only ~10% of police are confirmed assailants of domestic abuse!

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[-] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I love how every acab post inevitably brings out a bunch of uninformed libs in the comments talking about how pigs are only bad in America (as though the term ACAB was invented in America...) or how a society without them is completely inconceivable. As though badges grow on trees, like police are just a natural thing that sprung out of the ground.

The primary function of the police is to protect private property and enforce eviction. They're state agents who are allowed to use violence against working class people, and do so to prevent us from overthrowing the ruling class and redistributing wealth and the means of production. They protect class hierarchy. They attack protestors. They use state violence against the disenfranchised and the marginalized. The "just doing their job" of the police is to protect and preserve the unequal distribution of power in society. They do so by using violence against the working class. The rest of anything else they do is a small fraction of their job and entirely secondary to their primary functions.

[-] DeanFogg@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago

Every post i see seems to use lib as a slur

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[-] Lotarion@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

That kid's getting punted across the street the next second lol

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[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 18 points 5 months ago

Cops love it when you tell them that they are free to go.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemm.ee 16 points 5 months ago

Don't talk to cops like this, they will ruin your life or end it. Use that energy to campaign for electoral reform in your state so we can break the bipartisan police state.

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[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 5 months ago

Shame that the kid was such a threat to the cop that he needed to unload several magazines into him.

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[-] terminally_offline@infosec.pub 14 points 5 months ago

"did you used to be"

Followed by a quip about an IQ score. Something something glass houses...

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[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 14 points 5 months ago

Serious question: What's the leftists position on police in the ideal but realistic socialist world? What would make ACAB irrelevant?

[-] FilthyHookerSpit@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Probably some combination of:

  • Require them to have a 4 year degree
  • No qualified immunity
  • Make them also liable to civil suits
  • Heavily slash their budget
  • Disarm all of them, save maybe for SWAT
  • much, much better descalation training (pretty sure they're trained to escalate immediately)
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