And this is why I don't have ANY moral qualms about pirating shit: they'd do it to us in a heartbeat if there was a buck to be made.

Pirating Windows for your own personal, private use, which will never directly make you a single dollar: HIGHLY ILLEGAL

Scraping your creative works so they can make billions by selling automated processes that compete against your work: Perfectly fine and normal!

Sure bud, pirating some Microsoft Studio video games and windows ISOs right now. What? I found them on the open web!

DMCA for them, no DMCA for us.

You're always morally justified to steal from Microsoft

So if I see it on the “open web”, I’m free to use it however I please? Oh, I get thrown in jail and everything I own taken away.

If companies are people per “citizens united”, why doesn’t the same apply to them?

so we can steal Microsoft's products?

In other news: we have lawyers to protect our copyrights, you don't. Suck it.

It's okay to plagiarize books if they're in a library.

copying is not theft

copying isn't stealing

Aight, I'ma steal leaked Windows XP source code :3

He spoke carelessly, but he didn't exactly say what the author said he said. You can in fact do many things with it. Copyright doesn't care what you do if you aren't copying. That's the definition of the word.

There is a thing called usage licenses.

So its no longer intellectual property if its on the internet? The nerves on this guy...

So you could just copy and use every single helpful support article from Microsoft?

Oh shit, there aren't any

Just yet another proof, that the more 0's you have in your valuation, the less the laws apply to you

Does Netflix count as the open web? It definitely feels like so, but I'm ready for a wealth hoarder to tell me otherwise!

Apparently he thinks data is like the ducks you find in the park

I agree

Is his personal-information on the dark-web?

Is he saying that if his personal-information is on the dark-web, then it's perfectly-OK for everybody & their robot to be using it??

XOR is he saying that there are 2 kinds of law:

1 for protecting his entitlement,

the other for disallowing rights from the lives he consumes, through his beloved herd/corporation/pseudo-person?

( obviously, he's already answered the latter )

Oh hey, Microsoft support moving away from copyright!

Essentially the joke everyone made about nfts.

He's right, information wants to be free. Don't support stronger copyright just to spite people it'll benefit

Its not stolen if it is still there afterwards.

Copyright infrigment is not theft, training models is not copyright infringement either. We need a law equivalent to when an artist says "he's inpired by someone else" . That it specifically is illegal to do that without permission if you use a machine. That will force big tech to pay a pittance for it and it will instakill all the small player.

I think that with respect to content that’s already on microsoft.com, the social contract of that content since the ‘90s has been that it is fair use. Anyone can copy it, recreate with it, reproduce with it. That has been “freeware,” if you like, that’s been the understanding.

Yeah, that's how I've always thought of it.

You cant steal data. violating copyright (Which ai training does not do) is not theft.