this post was submitted on 13 Sep 2023
239 points (95.1% liked)

Asklemmy

49412 readers
733 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy πŸ”

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~

founded 6 years ago
MODERATORS
 

My significant other ate cucumbers and onion with some ranch. I called it a cucumber onion salad. She says there aren't enough ingredients to call it a salad, because "it takes multiple ingredients". I pointed out she had three and asked what the minimum is. She refuses to answer so I ask Lemmy.

(page 2) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

When will the divorce be final?

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 6 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Heterogenous chunks served around or below room temperature are a salad. To be heterogenous, there must be at least two different things, so... two is the minimum, dressing doesn't count towards the total.

Cucumber slices with tajΓ­n? Not a salad.

Cucumber, tomato, and red onion dressed with tahini? Jerusalem salad.

Tuna mixed with mayonnaise? Not tuna salad.

Tuna mixed with celery and mayonnaise? Tuna salad (barely).

Lime jello? Not a salad.

Lime jello cut into cubes mixed with orange jello cut into cubes? Jello salad.

Cranberries stewed with spices and sugar? Not a salad, cranberry sauce.

Cranberry sauce mixed with mandarin oranges, cut pineapple, and walnuts, set into a bundt-shaped jello mold? Cranberry salad.

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If I heat pasta salad in the microwave, is it no longer a salad? Is a leftover portion of pasta a salad before it is reheated? I'm not sure temperature is a requirement.

Also I have to question calling two flavours of Jello "different things", let alone calling 2 flavours of gelatine a salad, but I know Americans are more liberal with the word salad than other places.

Where I am you will rarely see the word salad used in relation to dishes that don't contain some raw chopped vegetables, especially leafy green ones. Or it's the dish's imported original name, like potato salad. Fruit salad is the one exception to that, I think.

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I could see an argument that past a certain temperature, you are now just eating pasta.

[–] Stell@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think the temperature doesn't work as part of the definition. If you've never had it, Taco Salad is served hot (the meat at least is, and usually the tortilla bowl is as well).

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

I would argue that Jello cubes in whipped cream could be a basic Jello salad. That's two ingredients, but it's also arguably an instance of a one-ingredient salad, since the whipped cream dressing doesn't count.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Kissaki@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago

Cut is as a prep step and it becomes a salad.

[–] latca@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Those ingredients you listed are literally the ingredients to a dish called cucumber salad. Though usually the dressing is more of an vinegary Italian dressing instead of ranch. Just Google it.

https://www.foodandwine.com/recipes/cucumber-salad

[–] figjam@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For me a salad is minimum of two uncooked ingredients.

[–] troutsushi@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What about potato salad, noodle salad and similar dishes containing cooked components?

[–] NiceElk@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Then you need also 2 uncooked ingredients I would say

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Fogle@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My girlfriend calls lettuce salad. A bowl of lettuce she calls a salad

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] krayj@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There is a centuries-old simple salad recipe involving just cucumbers, onions, vinegar, sugar, salt, pepper.

Anyone saying you can't have a salad out of cucumber, onions, and dressing...is wrong.

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Or the centuries-old salad recipe is wrong?

I have no opinion on this matter. I am merely being contradictory.

[–] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've often had spinach, some shredded cheese, and a vinaigrette and called it salad.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I mean when you put chopped iceberg lettuce and tomatoes, it's a salad... So... Two?

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Last time I tossed a salad it was two ingredients, so I think you're correct.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

To bolster your point I regularly make something I call cucumber onion salad with cucumber, white onion, and oil w herbs, salt and pepper. To me, it's a salad if it focuses on seasoned raw ingredients, esp vegetables, served cold. There's also the confusion over things like chicken/tuna/egg deli salads focused on being eaten as a sandwich or w crackers, and Midwest "salads" for which all rules seem to be moot except that it's likely served cold.

[–] hellweaver666@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Potato and Mayo = potato salad. So I would say two is the minimum. A bowl of lettuce on its own is not a salad. A salad is a classification of coke, (mainly) vegetable based dishes.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] BrownianMotion@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Two ingredients and a "dressing" is a salad.

If no dressing, then three ingredients or more.

Also, chicken caeser salad is a salad, and it has starch/bread.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Loid@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I talked with a expert (my one friend who knows how to use a knife) and the conclusion is: any vegetable that is served in a different plate.

[–] eagleeyedtiger@lemmy.nz 3 points 2 years ago (5 children)

So if I put my fries on a seperate plate it's a salad? Good to know

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] fubo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I grew up eating green salads without dressing, because the dressings my parents favored were so salty and acidic they hurt my mouth. Lettuce, sliced tomatoes, carrots, celery, maybe cucumber.

These days I usually go for a "Mediterranean" salad with greens, olives, feta or similar cheese, cucumber, tomato, bell peppers, herbs, and a splash of olive oil.

If you're making it for a group of people, finding a good mix of vegetables for a salad involves excluding the ones that someone doesn't like. I don't like zucchini or asparagus. One of my housemates can't abide celery. One friend doesn't like jicama. Another friend is okay with red bell pepper but can't abide green bell pepper. Making a salad everyone enjoys seems to be partly about getting all these preferences right and then balancing what's left.

load more comments
view more: β€Ή prev next β€Ί