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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do we really need to bring that bullshit over from Reddit? Manjaro is fine, Arch is fine, distroshaming is for children.

[–] Alawami@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] myxi@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Manjaro Linux is Arch Linux based. Manjaro and Arch relation is like Ubuntu and Debian relation.

Manjaro has its own set of issues that you may want to stay away from.

Edit: Ignore this comment, the image was loaded late. I thought it was a genuine question.

[–] pixxel@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

Thanks for linking this, I had totally missed the problems with manjaro.

[–] s4if@lemmy.my.id 1 points 2 years ago

Btw I use EndeavourOS xD

[–] Sneeze7713@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

i was hopeful for manjaro. bad management for sure

[–] jerrimu@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hate how weird the focus on arch installation is. I got attacked on reddit for calling endeavour arch. Like, I used that shitty method of installation in 1997, it's tedious and there are better ways now.

[–] jaykstah@waveform.social 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah people definitely go overboard with that. I think the only real problem is that Arch-based distros might be using other repositories and not be completely sync'd with Arch itself so then users will go to Arch support forums or communities with problems that don't affect vanilla arch. But I've never really cared when people using derivatives claim they're on an Arch system.

Installing isn't even as big of an undertaking these days too, so it's less of an achievement then people would like to think. Last time I did a clean install on my laptop I just ran the 'arch-install' script included on the vanilla ISO and it was super easy, lets you choose where you want it installed, pick from a list of desktop environments, and you pick between alternatives for other common packages then you're good to go without having to do much manual work during the install itself.

[–] atomic@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

for me, Debian -> Ubuntu -> Arch -> Artix -> Void -> Gentoo. I'll reach my final form when I finally run LFS.

[–] Titou@feddit.de -2 points 2 years ago

One of if not the worst Linux distros opinio i've ever seen.

[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Meh. I've been using Manjaro for two years now. So far so good. System has been working perfectly.

[–] Shareni@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

Congrats? But that doesn't change the fact it's shit.

Manjaro is without a doubt the worst arch derivative by far. Their whole marketing pitch is: "You heard that the arch repo has the most packages, and that they're all fresh from the pipeline? Use manjaro, and replace it with a smaller one that delays updates by two weeks for absolutely no reason! You want to use arch because of AUR? Oh, the package failed to install because your system is weeks out of date? Tough shit, we're not supporting AUR..."

It had a value in the time before archinstall, Endeavour, Arco, and Garuda. Each of them either only install arch with sane defaults, or provide some other benefits. Manjaro does neither, unless you count delaying security patches a benefit.

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I use Mint, Arch (technically Asahi), Debian, Ubuntu, and I used to use Manjaro.

They all have their places. Mint has the best UI/stable no-fuss desktop experience, for instance.

[–] KindaABigDyl@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Arch does not have a place though. It's just a more buggy Arch with a worse maintaining team

EDIT: Actually, tbh it's incorrect to even call Manjaro Arch. That's an insult to Arch

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Arch ... [is] just a more buggy Arch

I know you meant to say Manjaro, but that's a pretty funny take.

[–] KindaABigDyl@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

Oops lol

Leaving in

[–] Shareni@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago

Don't forget that it's repo has less packages and that they're delayed by two weeks for absolutely no reason. Not only opening users to potential hacks, but also messing up AUR package installation.

Manjaro is Arch's glue eating cousin