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[-] people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 1 year ago

I abhor Apple and exclusively only use Android, but this is some bullshit. Most apps on Andoid tablets are just crude transformations of their original phone apps, while generally on iPad the apps are at least made for the platform. Not to mention iPads are more powerful hardware-wise than any Android tablet ever made. Tablets are a segment where Apple does not lose, the closest competition is probably Microsoft Surface which is just as pricey, if not more.

[-] mikestevens@lemdro.id 3 points 1 year ago

I hear you, but at the same time, there are so few apps I want to use on a tablet more than I'd prefer to use it on my phone – which is likewise always with me.

Reading comics, watching video, editing photos, drawing, reading meal recipes on the kitchen bench... that's about the extent of my tablet use. Browsing social media? I'd rather do it on my phone. Productivity, notes, gaming? Even that, I'd rather do on my phone – if not my Macbook, of course.

So it's been a pretty easy decision for me to stick with Android tablets, especially Samsung, which obviously ties in well with my S23U.

[-] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

My favorite part was when he specifically stated he did not just like that the tablet has a bigger screen, and then proceeded to explain a whole list of features that only work because it's a bigger screen lol

[-] ijeff@lemdro.id 8 points 1 year ago

As an aside, it reminds me of when I thought my Galaxy Note 2 had a massive display at 5.5 inches. Fast forward to 2023 and I'm kind of wishing my S23 Ultra were a bit larger despite measuring 6.8 inches diagonally.

[-] HidingCat@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

It's the differences in the aspect ratio. You cannot compare screen sizes based on the diagonal alone when the aspect ratios are different. A 6.0" 20:9 screen is smaller than a 5.7" 16:9 screen. And in terms of width, the 6.5" 20:9 screen is also less wide than the 5.7" 16:9 screen, which can matter for certain things (like typing).

Also what's not helping is the curved screen, I find it takes another few mm off in terms of usable screen area, which makes a screen feel smaller than its stated dimensions.

[-] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I really like the longer aspect ratios. My current phone with a 6" 18:9 display is just minimally wider than my old 5" 16:9. Same comfort in the hand with more screen.

The only gripe I have with completely edge-less displays is the front facing camera. Small teardrop notches or holepunch cameras make it harder to cover them without it looking bad and/or obstructing part of the statusbar.

[-] tal@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While I realize that there are people for whom having a camera aimed at themselves is really important, I have to say that I have virtually never used the self-facing camera on a phone.

Honestly, every videoconference I've ever done on a computer for work could have really been done just fine with a audio-only call too.

I'd be pretty comfortable getting a phone that just drops the self-facing camera. Could just use a USB-attached webcam if I ever ran into a very rare situation where I really critically wanted the ability to videoconference on a phone.

Now, okay, that's not true for everyone. For some people's uses, having a self-facing camera is legitimately important. But at least for my own uses, I'd rather just have the extra pixels.

[-] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I don't have much use for it either, but every now and then it's nice to actually see the person you're talking to. A grandkids-living-abroad type situation, for example.

[-] HidingCat@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

My work needs it every now and then, and due to the nature of it (I'm not office-bound all the time), being able to have it on the phone is useful. I'd rather have a front-facing camera than not.

[-] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I do have a Galaxy tablet that seems huge to me and I was amazed to find it has better sound and video quality than my TV lol

[-] eleitl@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Huge is 13" or 15". Mine is 10" and too small.

[-] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

12.4". It's the biggest screen I have that's not a television or a computer lol

[-] eleitl@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Nice. Now if I could only find such hardware that is supported by Lineage OS.

[-] ImaginaryFox@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Me too. I got the S23U and wouldn't mind having more horizontal real estate.

[-] weew@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 year ago

that's a long ass article just saying "I like big screens"

I prefer my phone because it fits in my pocket, thanks.

[-] ijeff@lemdro.id 3 points 1 year ago

Sounds like somebody just needs bigger pockets.

[-] tal@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I kind of am in the "large phone" camp too, but one point I'd bring up: present-day women's fashion tends to not be as friendly to large pockets. If someone is female and doesn't want to use a handbag for their phone, small size may be a big deal. It's something I try to be sensitive of when I see someone complaining about large phones. If you're a guy, getting clothing with large pockets is easy. If you're a girl, it's a larger constraint.

I've seen a lot of women in tight jeans with small pockets and the majority of a large phone hanging out the top of the pocket.

I remember reading that having storage that went beneath skirts, with a slit to access it, used to historically be really common, but the 20th century shift in fashion towards more body-fitting dresses and then pants kind of killed that.

googles

Yeah.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-18/history-is-the-reason-dresses-hardly-ever-have-pockets/9057314

Do you find it frustrating that dresses and skirts hardly ever have pockets?

Even pants and jackets for women often don't have pockets you can actually put things in.

Clothes with pockets are a relatively new phenomenon, National Galley of Victoria textile and fashions curator Paola Di Trocchio said.

"In the 17th century women and men actually had external pockets," she told ABC Radio Melbourne's Hilary Harper.

While women who worked would wear these pockets on the outside of their clothing for ease of access, others wore the pockets under their skirts.

The large skirts in fashion at the time meant people could hide a lot in their pockets.

By this time men's clothes often included sewn-in pockets, because although women had begun to go out in public more "it was the men, typically, who handled money".

Women would often carry their items in a tiny bag, called a reticule, which eventually grew to a sensible size and became the modern handbag.

As for the future, Ms Di Trocchio said there's hope for pocket-lovers, with pockets potentially becoming larger and more common.

"Because we've got smartphones ... either our handbags or our pockets probably, design-wise, will respond because that's what humans are asking for, that's what they're desiring."

[-] ijeff@lemdro.id 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I absolutely meant that as a joke. I also advocate for a return to a wider variety of smaller flagships for people who prefer them.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago
[-] kratoz29@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

For real, I don't even know people who prefer Android tablets over iPads lol.

[-] mikestevens@lemdro.id 5 points 1 year ago

I prefer my Tab S8 over my 2019 iPad Pro, because all I use my tablet for is editing photos and watching media — but because it has user profiles, I can also share it with my young kids and control their app and content access, etc. So, Android is a very easy win for me in that regard.

[-] kratoz29@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

iPad REALLY NEEDS users profiles.

[-] mikestevens@lemdro.id 4 points 1 year ago

It does, yeah, but not giving it to you is part of how they've sold so many iPads. Think of how many parents and couples would be happy with one shared multi-user iPad instead of having to buy one for each user.

[-] kratoz29@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Apple can be many things, but dumb is not one of them.

[-] NightOwl@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

They know how to create situations to extract money. It's why I like Apple stock. They are good are creating base tiers that are great, but just with enough limitations to nudge people to upgrade to a higher one or buy two.

[-] HidingCat@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Me. All my apps are on Android and also all the iPad killer apps I've been hearing about so far I'd rather use the desktop for.

[-] ImaginaryFox@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Procreate is really good. That is the one app I've been satisfied with.

[-] mikestevens@lemdro.id 2 points 1 year ago

It is, but I find Infinite Painter is largely up to the task for most of my drawing needs — and what it lacks aren't significant enough reasons to splash out on an ipad.

[-] ImaginaryFox@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I do use a S23U and I surprisingly did like the default PenUP drawing app and how there's audio feedback that gives an additional feeling of texture to the drawing for that and Samsung Notes. S23U seems to make better use of the Spen than iPad does with the Apple Pencil. I use the smart select option all the time to do things like extract text. And wish iPad had an equivalent of one hand operation+ and edge panel.

I don't know I would change to a Samsung tablet though. Not because I greatly prefer the apps or OS on iPad, but because I feel more confident in long term support from them. If custom roms were around for Android tablets that had a spen quality stylus I'd switch in an instant knowing that when support stops I can move onto custom roms to use even longer. But until then I've been prioritizing updates for what is essentially a dedicated comic reader a majority of the time.

[-] eleitl@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Me. My tablet is open source. Walled gardens are useless for clients, too.

[-] LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Tbh once you get an iPad you realise it's just a big iPhone. And then you never use it.

[-] kratoz29@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

My gf has an iPad and she uses it a lot, and I even get to use it as well.

[-] ImaginaryFox@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would actually if it weren't for updates, but what I do on the tablet is so undemanding compared to phones that I made the concession for long term updates. Since the iPad for me is just a glorified comic reader most of the time. Didn't end up being the productivity laptop replacement I thought it would be other than writing on PDFs and drawing

I miss Tachiyomi and would actually get much more out of it than paperback. And vlc on ipad has struggled with playing some encoded x265 files compared to Android, and video options that are Foss so don't have ads or IAP are so lacking that that expensive paid options like Infuse is pushed.

And the file system is too restrictive. The nice specs seem to be held back so much by the OS. It is more filling the role a Kindle does for ebooks but for comics instead when it comes to the iPad for me. I wish it ran MacOS when you hooked it up to an external monitor or connected a keyboard to it. Although being able to use it as an external monitor with MacOS is really cool.

But, I am thinking of getting a Android tablet next time if there is one that has good custom rom community or at least official lineage OS support, since I would prefer the Android app alternatives for stuff like comics and video players and also being able to easily use emulators and play like DS games with the stylus would be fun.

[-] kratoz29@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Fair enough, indeed I suffer from that too, I sideload an app to read my Komga stuff (I'm not sure about the name) and I feel the OS is very limited, although each upgrade this is feeling less and less (with iPhone too) for me these hardware became more usable since iOS 7.

[-] ImaginaryFox@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

It's more convoluted than it needs to be but I've been using Tachiyomi to retrieve Manga and then send it to my iPad to read with Yacreader.

[-] tal@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

While I realize that there are people for whom having a camera aimed at themselves is really important, I have to say that I have virtually never used the self-facing camera on a phone.

Honestly, every videoconference I've ever done on a computer for woek could have really been done just fine with a audio-only call too.

I'd be pretty comfortable getting a phone that just drops the self-facing camera. Could just use a USB-attached webcam if I ever ran into a very rare situation where I really critically wanted the ability to videoconference on a phone.

Now, okay, that's not true for everyone. For some people's uses, having a self-facing camera is legitimately important. But at least for my own uses, I'd rather just have the extra pixels.

[-] sickpusy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Only tablet I ever bought was a nexus 7 back in the day when phones were smaller. I don't think I'd buy a tablet ever again. For reading fiction I still prefer e ink stuff like kindle. For everyday phone is fine now. And well for everything else a laptop does it's work. My tablet has been lying around for years without being used. The form factor doesn't seem very conducive to me for anything. Also watching movies is simply easier on a laptop cuz I don't have to think about holding up or balancing the screen.

[-] tal@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have an Android tablet that I mostly use for reading text or watching movies sometimes. I do wind up using my laptop more.

I suspect that a laptop+phone might cover a lot of what she's talking about better than a tablet.

It took Google more than a decade to dedicate some development resources to larger screens

A laptop will generally beat a tablet on screen size.

I’d still love to see the full desktop Chrome experience on tablets — rendering, extensions, search engines, and all that

Well, there's an easy way to get the desktop Chrome experience.

Multi-window support has been a staple feature of Android’s history

Also hard to compete with a desktop on.

Landscape mode: Near useless on phones, a default on tablets

Also true of laptops.

[-] eleitl@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I use a 10" tablet and a relatively powerful desktop with a couple of large screens and a mechanical keyboard. I don't have uses for a notebook.

Ideally I would like a 13" or 15" lightweight tablet with a stand and a mechanical wireless keyboard, rarely used.

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