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[-] Rheios@ttrpg.network 82 points 1 year ago

100% approve. Would strongly consider rolling something like a d4 to determine how the demon reacted (modified by species, because a palrethees isn't likely to attack). So for a palrethees it'd be like:

1 - Furious, bitter anger. Every deal it makes for the next d12 weeks is entirely centered on ruining the fighter in the most humiliating and harmful ways possible. Leaving dead innocents (like children or loose acquaintances) in their rooms to frame them, assaulting loved ones repeatedly whenever they think they're safe to cause them suffering, slandering them ahead of their travels, or even just trying to assassinate them.

2 - Cold respect and a reward for the fighter's cleverness. Maybe money or even a magic item, that comes with huge strings. (It was stolen, its cursed, someone very dangerous wants it, etc)

3 - Indifference and pulsing its fear creating affect just to be spiteful and drive away the fighter

4 - Actual amusement and a decision to follow the fighter around. Their new "friend" would probably amuse themselves in the same way any demon would, so atrocities would follow the fighter indirectly, the demon would get to make deals with those the fighter wronged/conflicted with for their souls, and maybe the demon even "helps" the fighter on occasion. As seen through the guise of a demon's idea of helpful of course. It might also just wander away after a week or so after it got bored.

[-] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 46 points 1 year ago

... aren't deals more of a devil thing? I thought demons were chaotic-evil and didn't necessarily care about honoring the letter of their deals

[-] Naz@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 year ago

The devil is in the details

[-] ikapoz@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

No no. The details clearly state “demon”.

[-] SGG@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Sub-contractors, not even the devil can avoid them.

[-] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 1 year ago

I appreciate the joke, but in D&D a devil is a whole category of monster, demons are a whole separate category. They fight each other in the eternal blood war.

[-] voidavoid@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

They're all fiends to me

[-] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking. If that detail is correct, that's on the DM for not knowing the difference.

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 34 points 1 year ago

At first i was expecting the demon to demand them playing the best song in the world.

[-] SinkingLotus@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Sorry. At best I can only offer to play a tribute.

[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Reminds me when I played Star Wars: Edge of Empire and our group met Bib Fortuna. One of our group immediately lobbed a thermal grenade at him, killing him, which is not supposed to happen. Our DM then sent a fuckload of mercenaries after us because, well, we did kill Jabba the Hutt's second in command. The group was completely obliterated by the bounty hunters. I wasn't even mad. (Well, except at the idiot with the grenade.)

[-] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I had something like that happen in Shadowrun. We were in a car chase and we were escaping. I'm driving, and passenger says he wants to throw a paint grenade at our persuer to help. I tell him no, I've got it handled, he does it anyway. Crit fail the throw, paint hits our windshield. I fail my reaction and we crash. Goon squad drives their car over our bodies. The end.

[-] Sigh_Bafanada@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Ah but you see, the agreed exchange was wait 5 seconds for me, therefore since the demon waited for 5 seconds, the fighter must uphold the transaction and give himself to the demon

[-] BustlingChungus@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

But the agreed exhange was “make a deal OR the demon would steal their souls” - no mention of the deal needing to be two ways to be valid. (or that’s my take, anyway).

[-] m4xie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] psud@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

A deal need not be a contract

[-] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

For a deal to be a deal, each side must offer something; the fighter offered nothing so it fails to meet the standards, I'd say. Clever attempt, but not quite.

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago

The demon is coercing the party so no deal made between any of them is legitimate anyway, so it doesn't matter.

[-] BambiDiego@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

"Lawyer vs Demon: DnD editon"

[-] jatone@reddthat.com 12 points 1 year ago

that simply isn't true. a deal is simply an agreement of terms.

[-] Patches@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You are thinking of contract law and consideration. Ol Yellow Eyes ain't a contract demon.

[-] Damage@slrpnk.net -3 points 1 year ago

But does the fighter have high enough int to do this?

[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

He is dumb enough he doesn't realize the demon was trying to trick him

[-] blackluster117@possumpat.io 2 points 1 year ago

It's called failing upwards.

[-] Aarrodri@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

What is this "reddit" thing marked at the bottom of the image? 🤔🤔

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