are we talking a joint? if so then it should apply to alcohol and cigarrettes. I can understand for injections. some folks are neddlephobes.
The original question came up over snorting drugs through a rolled up C note but would also likely encompass shooting heroin or smoking meth/crack. But the consensus appears to be not to ask for an NSFW tag at this time. So that will be our stance unless you guys decide things are going too far and you want the tag included on posts with that sort of content.
Well mate this tag is more useful to me around kids than in the office. Perhaps because I'm 100% wfh.
Anyways, I appreciate it also with gore images like certain Ukraine and Gaza pictures. So it's not just about work for me and others.
Now if we had a mandatory tag like this for politics I'd do the big brains meme and be soooo happy.
Politics aren’t allowed in !memes. We do try to catch it when a political meme is posted.
Maybe we need a new tag:
ANFW
absolutely necessary for work
But seriously tho, yeah, NSFW in the absence of another more specific tag.
Some people are recovering from addiction and stuff, good to give them a way to filter it out
If it’s particularly gory maybe?? I don’t think so in general.
Isn’t NSFW for gore/erotica.
It definitely is for those things, but in general it's meant to encompass things that would cause problems if a coworker or manager looked over your shoulder. Graphic depictions of illegal drug use is borderline which is why I wanted to ask the community how they felt about it.
NSFW has typically been used for things that are visually disturbing, like gore and sexually explicit materials. Using it for ideas that aren't safe for work feels like it would devalue the tag.
What about a person injecting themselves? I don't think anyone is necessarily complaining about smoking, but personally I don't exactly want to be seeing pictures of people injecting themselves or others, others especially, without any potential warning.
You’re not going to get fired for looking, at work, at a picture of a person injecting themselves.
That is the basis of the NSFW tag
I think you are on the right train of thought for this. A real person injecting themselves probably should be considered a NSFW image but a cartoon/meme character shouldn't be.
Ideally we would have NSFW, NSFL, and something like NSFG (Not Safe For Grandma) tags.
That possibly counts as gore, regardless of whether the drugs are recreational or medicinal. However, there will be exceptions.
The tag is for warning people browsing at work not to click... Using it to prevent someone from clicking on a post that would be unacceptable to read at the workplace is exactly what it's for
It's not like it's censorship, it's just a warning tag.
Would it be safe to look at, at work?
I wanna know what jobs y'all have that simply being on Lemmy itself isn't NSFW.
Computer stuff, WFH!
Quick edit; when I’m in the office it’s totally okay to play on my phone as much as I want as long as I get my computing done!
I'm thinking what about during your break etc, not just when you're on the clock.
Grown up jobs.
My rule of tumb: if someone is walking by would they stop and backtrack and go "WTF are you looking at at work?!" if no then it's not NSFW. If it's just text it's not NSFW. ASCII art not withstanding.
The internet is NSFW. Tags can't fix stupid.
Text is never going to need the tag. To the contrary, if you're at work reading text posts, and it's tagged NSFW, it draws the eye more.
Tagging text posts would defeat the entire purpose of the tag in its useful purpose.
Drug use isn't NSFW anyway, not in images or text.
No, depictions of drug use aren't nsfw. And if we start censoring it, why not also start censoring other relatively harmless concepts like depictions of weapons or cursewords? We don't want this, and trying to enforce it would add additional, unnecessary work to both you and the admins.
I appreciate the many voices here. It seems like consensus is that the tag is not needed as a general rule. I want to be clear, also, that the NSFW tag is not censorship, but also doesn't seem necessary either. Thank you guys for chiming in!
I think that would be a bit much.
I say if you label something not safe for work because of a drug, then it must be for all drugs including caffeine. No talks about coffee at work, or doughnuts; get those added sugars out of here. Far more people die in America from heart issues than people from eating edible gummies. Why would you ban one and not the other.
I suspect that this may be partially a result of a recent post of mine that some may considered to be in bad taste. So this response is likely to be a bit biased.
For what it is worth, I considered tagging mine as NSFW but ultimately decided it was not necessary. I thought the image was very clearly a staged representation of drug use. Similar to how the Eric Andre meme is clearly a staged representation of murder. Further, there was no blood nor any indication of physical injury and I liked it to an image of somebody smoking pot or drinking to excess.
Do I think drug use alone require a NSFW tag? No.
Should drug coupled with blood, gore, physical injury, exploitation, etc? Possibly.
If you can't show the list to your boss then it should be marked nsfw
When in doubt, use NSFW. I don't feel good when people make memes about crack or users because it directly affects me. I stopped following a community because of that. Thanks for asking anyway.
I think for issues like this it may be good to develop a practice of using the spoiler tag with a warning attached. This way it's up to the reader to decide if they want to read it and is flexible enough to cover all of the various use cases.
If you do drugs I would say that alcohol must be too, why one and not the other?
Just censor everything- it’s the internet after all and someone will be offended
An NSFW tag isn't censorship, it's a warning for people at WORK. if you don't use it for what it's for, that's not working people problems, that's your fault.
Yeah. Or that was the original meaning like 15 years back. Now there are hide nsfw settings in most clients and some of them where thats the default
Which you can easily turn off if you don't browse Lemmy at work.
Just because you don't use the tag for its intended purpose doesn't mean everyone doesn't. The tag has a clear purpose, denoted by what it stands for. Most people with adult jobs understand its purpose. Don't ruin the tag's purpose for the rest of us by devaluing it
That tag covers a lot of different things. This has been debated on reddit for 15 years, with no progress on other types of tags. It’s the only one, so while it says “work” it includes stuff a lot of us don’t need/want in general. It’s there to censor stuff
It isn't censorship if you can just turn it off and see everything. It's a warning for people who want to browse at work but not view content that can get them in trouble
Just turn it off and ignore it if it doesn't apply to you. The rest of us want the tag to be used for its purpose.
You base this on some sort of research into usage of nsfw tagging or just pull shit out of your ass?
Yes, my experience with websites over the past few decades.
NSFW stands for "not safe for work." What do you think it means? It's pretty straightforward in its meaning.
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