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To be clear, I’m not complaining that we don’t have these aforementioned applications on the Linux desktop. That’s not the point. The point is “we” still don’t have a robust way for developers to monetise their application development work.

Most desktop Linux users run Ubuntu. Followed by others you’ve likely heard of like Arch, Fedora, Manjaro, SUSE and friends. Most users of these desktop Linux distributions have no baked-in way to buy software.

Similarly developers have no built-in route to market their wares to Linux desktop users. Having a capability to easily charge users to access software is a compelling argument to develop and market applications.

For sure, I can (and do) throw money at a patreon, paypal, ko-fi or buy a developer some coffee, beer or something from their Amazon wishlist. But I can’t just click “Buy” and “Install” on an app in a store on my Linux laptop.

Maybe one day all the ducks will be in a row, and I’ll be able to buy applications published for Linux, directly on my desktop. Until then, I’ll just keep looking longingly at those macOS app developers, and hoping.

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[-] raubarno@lemmy.ml 46 points 1 year ago

Software was not meant to be someone's 'property' that can be bought or sold. Everyone has a right to free download, modify and share, that's the point of GNU and Linux.

[-] Montagge@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Bill Gates would like to know your location

[-] RandoCalrandian@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Bill gates would like to know everyones location

That’s what the whole windows telemetry enshitification nonsense is about

[-] fubo@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

If you want Windows, you know where to find it.

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

Ubuntu Snap comes close to what OP described, and so do npm, apt etc. They need to realize that the terminal is not an enemy. Text output makes it easier to resolve issues than "install failed" you get in many commercial app stores.

[-] christophski@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

Did you read the article? It's about being able to buy and sell apps, not just about installing them.

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de -1 points 1 year ago

Most are FOSS so that's not required. Man pages and readmes usually specify the project website where a “Donate” link is.

[-] christophski@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

Are you just deliberately ignoring the article?

[-] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 year ago

This man is in desperate need of both tar and feathers

[-] kingmongoose7877@lemmy.film 4 points 1 year ago

You mean tar and gzip?

[-] dark_stang@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago

Flatpak started working on payments earlier this year, so that is happening. But have we forgotten about Steam? It's mainly used for games yes, but your can sell software on it too. I've even bought some software on it.

[-] FarLine99@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] moreeni@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

People were developing proprietary paywalled software for Windows for years before Windows Store, or whatever it is called, was introduced.

[-] kglitch@kglitch.social 11 points 1 year ago

Elementary OS has a pay-what-you-can app store https://appcenter.elementary.io/

[-] GustavoM@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

It's called "The package manager". :^)

[-] anothermember@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

I would say that's more of a feature than a bug.

I think I would have more of a problem with the centralisation implied by this proposal than I would with paying for apps; a centralised "store" gives too much power to one organisation - but if you could choose to download one I don't think that's too much of a problem. But then we already have Steam for that.

[-] h3ndrik@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think I would like to see Amazon, Google, Netflix etc to pay for the free and open source projects they use to make money and sell in their AWS and database offerings.

I -personally- don't miss a store for end users. Marketshare for Linux on the destop is slim anyways. That's not where you earn a considerable amount of your money.

And i like things like the value-for-value model. So maybe instead include donation links in the package managers and into the databases of the gnome-software etc. (I think it's called packagekit.)

[-] ulkesh@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

"store" - n. - a quantity or supply of something kept for use as needed

A store doesn't have to mean that something must be for sale. There are numerous Linux app stores that all function exactly as they are designed.

[-] anothermember@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

The term "store" grates on me a bit, until recently we just called them repositories/repos, I think that's a better name.

[-] ulkesh@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

It’s really just semantics. And the article just seems like a nonsensical argument, to me.

[-] PrefersAwkward@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You can build in subscriptions or support licenses to your open source apps. Look at cryptomator and bitwarden for example. I know others do it. (And the free version is about as good as paid. But you can pay for a few near features and to support the devs)

And the beauty is that the package management takes no cut and puts no rules on payment methods.

[-] eterps@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

This is the right answer.

[-] Sentau@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

Well there were/are attempts to make flatpak with flathub an universal app store on linux. If I remember correctly, there were some ideas mooted on adding paid apps in to flathub.

[-] lea@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago
[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

You know, that probably is the closest thing Linux has. The only thing is it's not preinstalled and I wonder how many of the actual programs are Linux compatible.

But otherwise, yeah it's more an app store than the package manaer

[-] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

Well, elementary OS had that implemented, and Flathub was trying to make that a thing, but I'm not sure what happened there

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

The solution is not centralization, the solution is a protocol. The team at Flattr tried to do something that worked for content, but it was centralized. The team at Ganxy tried to expand the definition of monetize, but it was centralized. If we had a protocol where teams could publish metadata that enabled users to use any data-driven app to generate some form of compensation for the contributors, then we could build all sorts of workflows into package managers that made it easier.

[-] joojmachine@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

ITT a lot of people who don't read anything but the title

[-] SimonJ@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

The AUR does exactly this, nothing else needed.

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