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[-] auzy@lemmy.world 54 points 4 days ago

People use steam because it's good service, and a good product.

In fact, they also gave Linux a boost

They also have things like cloud saving

Developers use them because apparently they have some awesome features too for things like multiplayer and such and a great API

[-] lapislazuli@feddit.org 8 points 3 days ago

I like steam as a user but it's still proprietary software and I'm slightly concerned about what is going to happen when Gabe Newell steps down as president and ceo of Valve.

[-] DiabolicalBird@lemmy.ca 44 points 4 days ago

This has literally always been the case with Steam, the only difference is that people are told up front now. Things will likely continue to operate exactly the same as it has until now, I doubt Valve wants to disrupt the giant money train they have.

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[-] cybermass@lemmy.ca 224 points 5 days ago

I love how this article takes shots at steam despite valve being THE company holding the bar up in the gaming space.

I could list examples but I honestly don't even think I need to

[-] tuckerm@supermeter.social 187 points 5 days ago

Absolutely. I mean, I love the fact that GOG has DRM-free games. It's really incredible how many games are available without DRM because of them.

But I'm not going to make Valve out to be the bad guy here. Valve is like 99% of the reason why gaming on Linux is viable right now.

Valve seems like a great example of how, if you don't sell your company to venture capitalists, you can just be cool nerds that make good products. As much as I want DRM-free to be the norm, I'm also not going to vilify a company that is one of the best examples of not enshittifying right now.

[-] Glide@lemmy.ca 101 points 5 days ago

A lot of Steam games are also DRM free. It's up to the individual developers whether they enforce DRM checks or not.

I've copied files from Steam folders directly to a flash drive, plugged them into an offline, Steam-less computer that I don't have rights to install anything on, and ran them perfectly. But it is a game-by-game thing.

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[-] b3an@lemmy.world 48 points 5 days ago

Yeah.. it’s also a new law in California is it not? Kill shot? Hahahaha. Right. Who wrote this headline xD

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[-] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 4 days ago

Valve is holding up the bar not because valve is great but because everyone else is so shit. I've had a ton of issues with steam throughout the years and it's just.. nothing else is better. I was actually excited for the epic store launch and it's... Well, not the worst, because being the worst is a challenge some places take seriously, but certainly not a good steam replacement especially for low data people.

Steam may not let me control the updates to steam, but it won't force refresh my library causing ping spikes all the time as an intended feature.

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[-] Vespair@lemm.ee 41 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I like GOG, but this is just weasel-words to take advantage of the ignorance of the public. Whether you receive the installs directly or not, you still don't own your games, you are just licensing them, same as Steam.

This doesn't tip the scales into the "this is wrong" territory for me, but I do think this kind of word manipulation exploiting an unknowledgeable public is a little bit slimy.

edit: I had a bit of knee-jerk reaction to the sensationalism of the headline; what GOG actually says is fine and doesn't imply anything beyond licensing in my eyes.

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I think it is fair. When you buy games through GOG, you get the offline installer. Nobody can take that away from you.

When you buy games through Steam, you can only install them via the Steam client. If the Steam servers are offline, you cannot install your games. In theory, some games are without any DRM, and you can just zip them up, but even then that doesn't always work, and you shouldn't have to. That's not to take away from Steam, of course, it is great at what it does.

Providing an offline installer that works no matter what is as good as "owning" the game IMO, even if "technically" you are just purchasing a license to use the game.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago

I just like calling it "the kill shot", as though GOG is about to take all of Steam's market share some time next week.

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The amount of people thinking they are getting ripped off by steam now is astounding.

They are the reason this step is incredibly necessary.

[-] jacksilver@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

I mean I've always had an issue that digital goods could always be revoked/taken back. That's why I didn't buy things on steam until it became basically the only way (as consoles have less physical media). This is just a great reminder for the public that we're consistently loosing control over our digital lives.

I've been an advocate for forcing companies to change the wording for digital goofs to "lease" rather than "buy". Cause at the end of the day, no one owns their steam library.

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[-] daggermoon@lemmy.world 53 points 4 days ago

Now if we could just have GOG Galaxy for Linux. It would make my life so much easier.

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[-] Klear@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago

Here's another reminder to sign this initiative if you live in the EU.

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[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 48 points 5 days ago

100% agreed. just wish GOG was more linux friendly.

best of both worlds: piracy.

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[-] BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 57 points 5 days ago

Now can we get proton support for GoG that is as convient and reliable as it is in Steam?

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 57 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Remember when they said Galaxy would get linux support? That didn't happen, and that promise got quietly retracted...

That said, Heroic is unofficial but has worked quite well.

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[-] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 48 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

All online storefronts doing business in California will soon be forbidden by law to lie to customers with words like "buy" when they really mean "license". GOG is no exception.

https://digitaldemocracy.calmatters.org/bills/ca_202320240ab2426

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago
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[-] ekZepp@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

As long as you understand the terms of your agreement with Steam as a platform, everything is fine. Physical media for games are outdated anyway, especially with frequent updates, patches, and DLC releases. Regarding older titles that are no longer supported, well, as the saying goes: "If buying isn't owing..."

[-] CryptoKitten@sh.itjust.works 33 points 5 days ago

I like GOG and I like steam too. While it is true that GOG can't take the offline installer from me, this does not make it true I can play the game forever since many games are dynamically linked to libraries that may not be available in the future. This happened to me with games I just had bought. Steam also dynamically links to libraries but what I like about the way they are doing it is that these are part of the base installation so as long as you keep these files, the games should keep working. Nothing being perfect, I think they both try to do things in their own way and try to convince us that it is the best one.

[-] CapitalType@moist.catsweat.com 36 points 5 days ago

Doesn't owning something mean you can sell it? That doesn't apply to GOG, though.

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[-] missingno@fedia.io 31 points 5 days ago

Even DRM-free, all digital purchases are still just a license, legally speaking.

Pragmatically speaking, they can't forcibly take the bits off my hard drive. But it also bears pointing out that these days most games on Steam don't bother enabling Steamworks DRM either.

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