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[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

I like the part that points out dolphins are more intelligent than humans.

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago

The only creature on earth smarter than dolphins are mice

[-] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 12 points 1 month ago

And according to new research, Columbus wasn't Italian after all but a Spanish Jew. Though it hasn't been peer-reviewed yet so it remains to be seen if it holds up to scrutiny.

[-] fushuan@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago

And according to Spanish history, Columbus wasn't the one that did the enslaving. After settling and making a small base he returned with news and then the conquerors went for war, the most notorious figure being Hernan Cortez.

It's crazy the amount of Columbus hate I read on american websites and no mention of Cortez, who was way way worse.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Iirc Columbus did go back and do his share of abusing too though.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 6 points 1 month ago

And was removed from his governorship because he was an evil motherfucker even by conquistador standards.

[-] fushuan@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Not by conquistador standards, conquistadors weren't a thing when he died. He was the Caribbean governor and conquistadors conquered the rest of americas some years after he died.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago

1: Would you agree that the Spanish systemically conquered the Caribbean islands to establish the base of operations they needed to expand on the mainland?

2: What does conquistador directly translate as?

3: Was Columbus specifically removed because he was bad even by the other conquered islands' standards?

[-] fushuan@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes. Conqueror. Yes.

I don't get if you are trying to be smug about it or whatever, but the "conquerors" were a specific warring campaign soldiers deployed to conquer the rest of america, specifically the Aztecs since those weren't "easy" to convert to catholicism given that they already had a religion.

You specifically said "conquistador" standards, which although it's an Spanish word that translates to conqueror, makes reference to a specific group that wasn't even formed when Columbus died.

Anyway, yes he was bad but I don't get why no fucking one mentions Hernan Cortez, who massacred waaay more people, and went with the intent to murder and dominate them from the very beginning.

Minor edit: he wasn't removed of his titles because he was bad/evil, the Spaniard crows didn't care about the murder of natives. He was removed because he became a tyrant of anyone who lived in the Caribbean, be it native or setter.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Mmhhmm.

Tell me when conquistador became an official title, and what, exactly, was different about the mainland conquests that means you should treat the armed butchers as a separate entity?

[-] fushuan@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The Spanish name used in an English text has a specific meaning as fas as I know: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquistador

I really don't get why you are acting so passive aggressively, it's you who referenced them instead of saying "contemporary conquerors", "the crown" or whatever.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Happy immigrants and indigenous peoples day…

Alternatively central Ohio day, for those wishing to draw attention to the fact that the capital of Ohio would very much like a different name

[-] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 6 points 1 month ago

Its* native peoples

"It's" means "it is"

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Or you could just use the context, like any other homograph.

[-] diegooooooo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

The colombian exchange made pizza possible, sooo...

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Just the tomato base really. There was still a lot of pizza-like food that predated the columbian exchange because I guess it doesn't require much effort to invent "bread with stuff on it"

[-] diegooooooo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago
[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

A lot of good pizza out there that don't use tomato as a base though. I love a good pesto pizza, and pesto uses all "old world" ingredients.

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