This is LinkedIn isn’t it? This exactly the trash you’d expect from tech bros choosing this as their social media platform of choice. Reminder: Microsoft owns LinkedIn & you can delete your account today (since 90% of your messages & recruitement is spam/trash).
One doesn't just delete LinkedIn. In fact, one can't totally. Once it's got its claws into you, your hooked with steel barbs. It's easier to escape ebola.
Thought exercise lmao
I might pay a small fee for a guaranteed interview. If I can get in front of someone, I usually score. OTOH, I'd never trust a company doing this, so...
For those complaining that it's a terrible idea, and it may well be, have your ever been on the receiving end of shotgunned resumes?
What's a good solution to this?
I get that it's annoying to have a lot of (obviously) under qualified applications, and someone has to go through them. I just don't think it's possible to solve this problem without being unfair to at least some applicants.
More context
I was part of a hiring committee for a professor job at an European university last year. The job description was clear enough that you got the vibe "this is a high profile job. Only apply if you think you really are high profile for a European university."
And we got soooo many trash applications, we rejected more than 90% in the first screening. Some obvious ones, and some less obvious ones. The obvious ones were the most annoying, because wtf is that application. One that will always stay in my mind is the application of an already established professor, which consisted only of a CV that looked like a 3 year old glued it together and someone replicated that in Power Point in 2003. I was so confused about this application, because how tf did this person think this was enough? They're an established professor! They really should know how applications work.
So yeah, I get that there are a lot of annoying applications coming in that feel like a waste of time for everyone. Asking money to apply will not help tho.
Maybe hire someone to help with the applications..? No wait, then you'd have to go through even more applications. /s
The job description was clear enough that you got the vibe "this is a high profile job. Only apply if you think you really are high profile for a European university."
Lol I apply for things like that cause what the fuck are they doing on Indeed?
Time is money. Even if I don't get the job, I feel I should still get paid a minimum of an hourly wage for the waste of my time.
This is the most entitled white guy take.
I need money. Too bad I don't have any money.
Exchange ideas by listening to mine, avoid criticism by labeling it vitriol.
I would gladly pay for him to briefly notice and reject me.
I paid an application fee to apply for the local electrical union JATC
Although this is obviously a dumb solution, I do get what he's saying. Part of why the job market is so bad right now, is that there is a lot of people (often with the help of automation) sending out applications in bulk to companies they fail to meet even bare minimum requirements for. For example, its anecdotal, but a local company has given up on public postings because last time they tried, they received thousands of applications in a single day (most of which with no qualifications) and the ones they tried to reach out to weren't even in the country. There are a lot of ways to help filter this, but it just highlights what a mess things are right now.
That's the cost of the companies hiring and firing a fuckton of people at once. If they don't want that, they can give us stability. If they dont like the mass posting on their platforms, they can start having a more humane process.
Shoving it onto the consumer is just dumb. Plenty of very qualified people need to apply to hundreds of jobs to get one. Plenty of companies wasting time posting jobs they'll never fill. He didn't think this through one bit, and hiding the criticism behind "it's just a thought" doesn't make the criticism less valid.
It also tells us a lot about him for even thinking it was an idea. He's completely disconnected with the realities of job hunting and the market.
Saying the problem is just because people hire and fire too often is such a massive oversimplification. If that was the main factor, the market wouldn't be anywhere near as bad as it is, and it wouldn't take hundreds of applications just to get an interview. Theres a whole plethora of issues from governments of developed nations usually adding loopholes to labor laws for foreign workers to supress wages, to the complete lack of competition/antitrust enforcement, to the increased push from companies and moronic liberatarians to remove social safety nets forcing people into abusive jobs, to the number of buinesses that have discovered that they can just use postings to collect valuable data rather than to hire. This is what has caused the market to break down - bad employee retention doesn't help, but that alone would be a small scale problem that weighs down the company practicing it.
If they dont like the mass posting on their platforms, they can start having a more humane process.
That was the reason I was complaining - even companies trying to hire honestly and humanely can't function at this point. The whole system is starting to come apart because the few at the top are too greedy and incompetent to even attempt to fix things. We need actual, enforced worker protections, and we need those in power to stop trying to prop up megacompanies, or the system will just continue to cave in on itself.
Waaaaaahhhhh :'( We shat in the pool for years and now we can't go swimming because other people think it's okay to shit in our pool, too!
nO oNe wAnTs tO WorK aNyMoRe
Points out that companies are no longer advertising jobs.
Still finds a way to blame jobseekers.
Boot can't really taste that good, can it? Not to kink shame, but is it that you simply enjoy being stomped on?
A community to discuss jobs, whether that's regarding to the search, advice on how to negotiate an offer, or just an open forum to vent.
This is not a place intended for you to post job listings.
