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submitted 8 hours ago by ABCDE@lemmy.world to c/movies@lemmy.world

This is a particularly important topic for myself on the spectrum, as I've had a lot of difficulties trying to follow what's going on in the cinema. I'd have subtitles on all the time if that was possible.

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[-] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 25 points 4 hours ago

TL;DR:

Modern actors are incompetent self entitled imbeciles with no theatre training whatsoever who mumble their words because they think it sounds cooler.

Directors are incompetent self entitled imbeciles who believe unintelligible dialogue is more realistic, but also that drowning it in way too loud music makes the film more emotional, that sound recording equipment gets in the way of filming and should be kept as far away as possible from the action, and that if they know what the script says (because they've read it a thousand times) so will the audience.

Producers (and the aforementioned actors and directors) are cheap lazy incompetent self entitled imbeciles who'll refuse to film another take claiming the useless shit they just filmed can be fixed in post (it can't, it's shit).

Theatres fired all competent projectionists and are now manned by lazy incompetent untrained teenagers who have no idea how to properly operate and set up the sound systems and will more often than not play the films at the wrong volume.

Streaming sites overcompress and overprocess (and overprice) the audio into an even more unintelligible noisy mess.

“Smart” TVs overprocess it even more on top of that, making it even worse. And you're probably using the wrong settings anyway.

In short: the audio is intentionally crap, becomes even crappier in every step between filming and your ears (except, according to people working in sound processing, the sound processing step, but there's only so much you can do to fix crappy digital audio).

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 28 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

“bemoaning directors' over-reliance on music as ‘pushing emotion’ on audiences”

One of my pet peeves. It’s usually the sign of a poorly made movie if you feel you have to lay on the music because actors performances aren’t enough to convey the emotions of a scene.

Really though the last mentioned issue in the article is the main problem. (Gotta get you to scroll to the end!) The movies are mixed for a theater sound system and most don’t get remixed for television.

[-] explodes@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

You mean you're not a fan of the cover song that is slowed down to sound ominous that you hear in every got dang trailer?!

[-] ABCDE@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Very much the case of streaming movies, like the brothers one with Peter Dinklage and Josh Brolin. They're phoning it in while those working post are trying to make it gel better. I don't know if I've seen a genuinely good movie which went straight onto streaming platforms.

[-] Kelly@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

The Mitchells vs. the Machines was good, but it wasn't produced for streaming.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 23 points 8 hours ago

That's a brilliant article.

Assuming facts are accurate, and there's not much missing info, it explains so much about why I've consistently hated the sound on streaming services. Even with my full home theater setup instead of just stereo, there's flaws that stand out compared to dvd or bluray.

Take the opening scene of evil dead. Well, I can't recall if it's 1 or 2 that has this particular scene. But it's when the swing is banging against the cabin. On DVD the sound is balanced roughly right; the banging isn't out of line with the dialogue, no need to mess with volume. But streaming? Again, I can't even remember what service it was on, but that banging was absurdly loud compared to the dialogue, and so were the effects. It was a horrible experience to a movie I've seen literally hundreds of times over the years.

[-] aramis87@fedia.io 1 points 6 hours ago

When that happens, it's usually because the sound being broadcast doesn't match your tv's sound setup. The easiest thing to do is to switch it to mono. You don't get the nice stereo effects, but at least you can hear everything without being blasted out of your seat.

[-] accideath@lemmy.world 1 points 20 minutes ago

Or, if you can afford it and have the space, get a 5.1 surround system (or better). Most movies and series are mastered in surround and besides being a more immersive experience in general, dialogue is primary played by a designated speaker (center speaker) and most sound systems allow you to boost the output to said speaker, making dialogue stand out a bit more against the music/noise.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 hours ago

The new dialogue Enhancer feature on the AppleTV 4K works quite nicely on almost everything.

[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

Is that the one for your dialogue in the room or the viewed media

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Media. There's also like a level 2 called, IIRC, Boost Dialogue, but that one tends to screw with the rest of the audio track, whereas Enhance level has minimal impact (pretty much unnoticeable...MOST of the time. I have had some media where I definitely have turned it off).

[-] zeroshift11@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

A picture you can hear.

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