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[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (32 children)

If you need help explaining just how fascist the west is to an average person, point out how they keep aligning themselves with some of the most savage murderous regimes in human history. There isn't a single answer that doesn't make them look like a complete monster.

[–] Aria@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The west's own savage actions so massively dwarf anything Saudi has done in this period that it's a pretty silly guilt by association point.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago

Maybe to you, but these people are either unaware of their actions or think their actions are good. You have to tie it to something else.

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[–] Gorilladrums@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is a brain dead take because it's just guilt by association. Having diplomatic relations with countries around the world doesn't mean that you endorse or support their government. A country that's ruled by a shitty ideology like Fascism or Marxism is something to be weary of, but these countries do in fact exist and they do play a role in global politics and economics. For example, the UAE and Israel normalizing relations doesn't mean that they support each other, but they recognize each other's influence and understand that diplomacy and cooperation is more beneficial and productive than shunning each other.

I mean we tried to sanction, shun, and ignore authoritarian countries like Cuba and North Korea for decades... How has that worked out for us? My point is that we can't cut relations with every country we don't like. There are situations where that should be the case and there are definitely arguments for us to be more cautious when dealing with these types of regimes, but we can't cut ourselves off from the vast majority of the world (which is authoritarian) nor can we force countries to adopt our ways (we tried with Iraq and Afghanistan, it didn't work).

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

shitty ideology like Fascism or Marxism

Crakkka, I aint reading past that

[–] Gorilladrums@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Lol it's funny how racists are always either Fascist or Marxist. Let me guess you're scum who's dumb enough to follow one of these failed murderous ideologies

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Gorilladrums@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago

Seethe and cope trash

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[–] Anonymous_TorPerson@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just wondering what you think, didn't Jamal Khashoggi write articles defending Hisbullah and other terrorist orgs that Saudis didn't like? I am not justifying the actions of SA, but just wondering here.

[–] topz@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

How is that even relevant? Is it ok to kill a person and just brush it off only because that person wrote articles?

[–] Ibex0@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago

He'll be in charge for decades to come. It's time to move on from that assassination.

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