Yeah we're stocking up on everything we can now, so we can tighten our belts and hopefully save some money over the next few years, but also not directly give the oligarchs any more of our money. I've been researching local and woman owned businesses that I'd like to support for the necessities, and thankfully our grocery store is a local chain. I have a friend who is offering to make basic clothing, including underwear, in exchange for childcare, eggs, and produce. People around here are going to get creative and it's actually giving me some hope that things won't be as bad as we think.

They'll just say the loans should be privatized. Because it turned out great last time we gave private companies free reign to swindle vulnerable populations into signing massive loans for societal necessities.

"It won't happen. And if it does, it's the Democrats' fault."

Americans are even dumber than that.

A few weeks before the election Donald Trump and Elon Musk had a little circle jerk podcast interview with each other. They spent time talking about how anti-union they are and how much they hate worker’s rights. Then working class Americans went out in droves and voted for those two rich assholes who openly talked about wishing workers had less rights.

We made a guy who was the first president in U.S. history to stand on a picket line with striking workers step down because he was old. Then we hired another equally old rich guy who openly talks about wishing workers had less rights.

That's how stupid Americans are. And this election showed us that the majority of Americans are that stupid. When a majority of a society is that stupid, there are no happy endings. We're set for a period of long decline.

/c/thathappened

He says he’s really looking forward to prices coming down in the next four years.

Even absent the tariffs, its crazy to think prices will be coming down under a government that loves the idea of price gouging and speculation.

I have a neighbor who voted for Trump. He relies on aspects of medicaid, to get insulin, that the GOP have directly targeted for removal from what it will cover. I told him this, he didn't believe me. So I showed him it in writing from a GOP source. He said that Trump will find some way for people like him to get their insulin. They just want this particular way gone because it's a bad method. I even pointed out that there was zero discussion of changing these policies, to make them more sensible, or anything like that, just an outline that they plan on stopping that coverage. He just doubled down that he won't be abandoned, they aren't just getting rid of the coverage, they are getting rid of THAT SPECIFIC WAY OF DOING IT because it is inefficient, or whatever.

If you explained that tariffs would hurt their income, and employment, in a way they understood, they would just assume there was something being cooked up to make sure that didn't happen. Now that all the manufacturing companies, here, are demonstrating that there will be big losses of profit margin, and cutting compensation to workers, they are mad. However, I personally doubt they will stay mad, or mad enough, or that they won't just end up blaming Joe Biden for it.

Wouldn't have helped. Learning isn't what Americans do. Americans like finding things to be mad about and then making decisions based on their emotional responses.

Can't fix stupid without massively improving the public education system, and stupid Americans just elected the guys that ran on deconstructing the public education system.

We're done.

God, if only it was that easy.

These people will willfully forget the lesson within a day so they can go back to bootlicking.

The issue is you can't teach someone who not only doesn't want to learn, they react in opposition to the idea of understanding anything outside of emotional reactions.

I actually believe it because it's exactly what happened in brexit. Conservatives voted to leave and then they found out what that meant.

Conservatives were so focused on winning that they didn't bother to actually look into Trump's "policies" and are now Pikachu faced when understanding it.

These are the same assholes that are going to completely forget two years from now that Trump raised prices and will still vote Republican in the midterms.

As an European: The Brexiteers who "suddenly" were excluded from free travel and prolonged stays within EU due to their own voting gave a stream of similar stories. It was and is hilarious to watch.

I do believe that such dialogues are really happening and will continue to happen in the US around the clock from now on.

If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.

• Lyndon B. Johnson