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[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 33 points 6 hours ago

oh yeah sure. expanding overtime rights, over the counter birth control, getting rid of junk fees, clarifying the vice presidents role in certifying elections as ministerial, funding infrastructure while simultaneously stimulating energy efficiency and renewables, forcing airlines to refund canceled flights, fighting for loan forgiveness extensively as well as to put a stop to non compete clauses. nothing for the working class though as this does not hit specific things I find important so lets just go worse in all possible ways because thats a solid plan.

[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 5 points 4 hours ago

What or whom exactly is this post for ?

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I think it's for people who are angry that the world isn't getting better by itself while they scroll through memes.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 hours ago

It's leftist agitprop showcasing the failures of the DNC for disaffected liberals.

[-] random@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 7 hours ago

republicans: we will shit on the working class

tankies: omg, dems so bad

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Reps: we will crap on the working class

Dems: we will crap on the working class ✨

Leftists: The Dems don't actually help the working class, both parties derive their power and legitimacy from their donors, wealthy Capitalists. They function as businesses that sell policy to the highest bidder. We need a revolution in order for the people to have a real say.

Liberals: Shut up, tankie!

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[-] a9cx34udP4ZZ0@lemmy.world 18 points 8 hours ago

That's a great take if you completely ignore that laws are written by congress, and in the last 30 years Democrats have only had both chambers and the executive, by a slim margin for 2 years and a wide margin for 2 years. In those 2 years of a wide margin (Obama) they passed the ACA, which was watered down by republicans because it was the only way to get it to pass because they still didn't have a super majority.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 8 hours ago

The Democrats have utterly failed to appeal to workers, and as such fail to bring out the votes. The DNC is a business that sells policy to wealthy Capitalists, it doesn't represent the working class.

[-] a9cx34udP4ZZ0@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago

The Democrats have utterly failed to appeal to workers, and as such fail to bring out the votes. The DNC is a business that sells policy to wealthy Capitalists, it doesn’t represent the working class.

Huh? Did you actually follow the election at all. Trump's solution for the working class was "I'll get you better jobs with more pay" and when asked for specific examples, he couldn't provide anything of substance. But he was fond of talking about how he hated unions and paying overtime during his speeches and talking about killing the ACA. VERY pro worker.

On the flip side Kamala was offering up cutting taxes on the middle class, lowering food prices, expanding the ACA, assistance to first time home buyers, and more assistance around childcare.

I don't know exactly what you think "appeals to workers" but she checked literally every box beyond promising "more pay" without any semblance of a way to do so. Is your idea of "appealing to workers": you just need to lie more?

[-] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 1 points 41 minutes ago

you just need to lie more?

You might be on to something here

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 7 hours ago

You're talking about Kamala "means testing" Harris, who paraded around with Liz Cheney, and comparing it to Trump who ran a far-right populist campaign running on ideas like "no tax on tips." Harris failed to run on popular programs like Medicare for All, and Trump did his usual awful schtick while exploiting the fact that Harris had no solid policy.

Neither party represents the workers, they both sell policy to wealthy Capitalists, and that's it.

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[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 20 points 9 hours ago
[-] CovertGogurt@lemm.ee 6 points 7 hours ago

You work within the system until you can get the change you want. By throwing your hands up you...ugh why even bother.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 hours ago

If you can't get necessary change by working within the system then you must work outside it and replace it.

[-] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 hours ago

100% agree with you. But I would counter and say changing it from the outside/replacing it is a last resort as it will lead to complete instability while things get sorted - this is exactly what Putin wants.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 hours ago

The US is the world's main exporter of death and destruction on the Global South, instability in the US would do the majority of the world a massive favor. Putin would probably rejoice, sure, but so would all the nations in the Global South.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 hours ago

are you getting the change you want by working within the system?

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 hours ago

Company that installs Overton windows said to be leaving then on moving dolly, left mumbling something about install it yourself morons.

[-] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 hours ago

"Every nation gets the government it deserves."

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 hours ago

Republicans are garbager and yet....

[-] figaro@lemdro.id 3 points 6 hours ago

I know that there is always more that could be done, but did the infrastructure bill, the chips bill, and the inflation reduction act count toward helping the middle class?

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