Lokjo.com - Your worldwide local map (www.lokjo.com)

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New OSM based Map Website.

We use open data from OSM.org , a platform with over a million volunteers world wide, updating the map, roads, locations etc in their area. This includes any shops.

Hopefully it keeps alive and does not die (like similar Qwant Maps)

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[-] infeeeee@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If I click on a big chain supermarket (Lidl, Aldi or Spar) I get this message and I can't see opening hours:

Our filter indicates this a corporation or chain, which we don't support.

Why a map app wants to decide which stores I should go to? I want to decide what corporations I hate, please don't tell me how to live my life.

Since Qwant is down I started to use https://osmapp.org as a replacement. Not as polished as Qwant was, but clickable POIs on the default vector layer, with most important info visible.

Edit:

I found this in the FAQ:

Q - After searching locations, some are shown with a red dot.

A - These are for locations that are corporate or chains, and don't show any information about the place. We do this because on our map we support fair policies, and shops whose primary target is to make a living by serving products.

It assumes wrongly that small shops are always better. I live in a big city where nearly all local shops are owned by local oligarchs, AND the prices are higher and quality is worse than in international chains. So the profit will go to a wrong place either way, so my choice is my wallet, but this app wants to force me against that. No, thank you.

[-] balsoft@lemmy.ml 2 points 19 hours ago

What annoys me even more with both osmapp and lokjo is that they show neither metro stops/lines (unless you zoom right in) nor bike paths (at all), and there's no option to enable it. Also neither of the apps allow you to make routes via public transit. Apart from feeling car-brained, this makes those apps functionally useless for navigating in bigger cities for more than a couple kilometers (and I say that as someone who has a car; I'm not spending my life in traffic, public transit is much faster, easier, and eco-friendly!)

[-] infeeeee@lemm.ee 1 points 16 hours ago

For usable public transport routing the router would need to know the timetable, and that data is not available in osm. There was a thread about this a month ago: https://feddit.org/post/3575702

Osmapp has a bicycle layer and bicycle routing.

[-] balsoft@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago

For usable public transport routing the router would need to know the timetable, and that data is not available in osm.

Not necessarily. At least here, transit (metro + buses) is typically rapid enough that you don't have to worry about timetables much, unless you're really in a hurry; I've done a few trips using OsmAnd's public transport routing and it worked just fine, and it doesn't know about timetables.

Also, most towns publish not only their timetables but often the live locations of their buses & trains with GTFS; I wish more apps supported it, at least by offering to manually add the URL of the transit operator you're using.

[-] InsertUser@en.osm.town 2 points 14 hours ago

@balsoft @infeeeee @openstreetmap

That's the exception rather than the rule.

I would generally prefer to know what routes to look up though.

[-] infeeeee@lemm.ee 1 points 15 hours ago

Yes, it's possible, and there are few examples, the point is it's much more complex to implement it than just slapping router on top of the map.

[-] balsoft@lemmy.ml 1 points 14 hours ago

Sure, I appreciate that it's more complicated due to there not being a connected road graph in the same way as there is for other modes of transport. But at the very least showing the main transit arteries (metro & light rail) prominently would already go a long way, if nothing else than to help identify places by their nearest transit stop.

[-] infeeeee@lemm.ee 1 points 13 hours ago

There is also a Transit layer on osmapp :)

[-] balsoft@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago

Oh ok, that's neat! Thanks

[-] redd@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago

Wow that's ridiculous

[-] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Edit: forget it. The other commentor highlighted what's wrong with this map

this post was submitted on 18 Nov 2024

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