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[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 51 points 16 hours ago
[-] SatyrSack@feddit.org 54 points 16 hours ago

BALD?? I have hair! Why else would I visit the best barber in Starfleet?!

[-] hallettj@leminal.space 15 points 15 hours ago

I assume because the writers thought it was hilarious

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 25 points 14 hours ago

Because if he didn't, he would wind up looking like Hector Salamanca

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 39 points 16 hours ago

I just couldn't get into Discovery or Picard because they felt... weird? Not that it wasn't like Star Trek in the stories or that it was "woke," but it just didn't have the same vibe as what I grew up with. Lower Decks has the vibe, but not the tone or anything else. I need to check out Strange New Worlds. It looks like it might be what I'm really missing.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 40 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Both Picard and Discovery were season long plots without episodic filler episodes to shake things up which made it painfully obvious that their overarching plotlines were terrible. Add some poorly done melodramatic scenes about how the leads are the most important people ever without showing why (and in a lot of cases showing the opposite) and we have two series that were just a slog to watch up to the point that I stopped.

Both sounded good on paper. Both had great casts. Both seemed to suffer from terrible writing and direction.

[-] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago

The final season of PIC was fun, and the second one had some good moments, mostly with Q. But that first season was still being written as they were filming and the second season had part of its budget appropriated for the third season and it shows in both.

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[-] USSMojave@startrek.website 10 points 12 hours ago

Yes, watch Strange New Worlds! It really does get at the vibe and tone of TNG and the other 90s Trek shows. It's a breath of fresh air

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[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 19 points 14 hours ago

I just watched Season 2 of Picard and all I could think the whole time was "TNG crew would have wrapped this up in 1 or 2 episodes..."

[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 16 points 13 hours ago

Yup, in order to make Discovery and Picard work, the writers had to give everyone the idiot ball.

Trek is at its best when it's competence porn.

As a note, to be in star fleet requires 4 years at the start fleet academy. You need to be somewhat good at your job and somewhat disciplined to even be considered for a slot on a ship.

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[-] infinite_ass@leminal.space 1 points 9 hours ago

They both had dogshit writing. Deeply bad. Criminally stupid.

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[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 13 points 13 hours ago

was there even one gay character in TNG?

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

I'm going with Alexander.

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago
[-] Stamets@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

No. Fuck you. We reject him. We have standards.

Sincerely, the gay community.

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[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 12 points 14 hours ago
[-] VerticaGG@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Yep. This greentext is all just "dont threaten me with a good time". Let anon fawn over one another's griftcoin acumen and wallow in their oblivious unfuckability.

Short of DS9, Discovery is my fav ✨️

[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 2 points 10 hours ago
[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 17 points 16 hours ago

What's the "gay agenda" reference for TNG?

[-] SatyrSack@feddit.org 43 points 16 hours ago
[-] Norin@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago

When I was a kid watching TNG with my parents, my father would sometimes say things like “Man, that guy is too handsome” when Riker was on screen.

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Grats your dad is gay/bi

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 17 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I also don't think the TNG cast is particularly overly-emotional.

Plus TNG didn't retcon Klingon appearance, it had been that way for like 10 years already by that point, from the TOS films.

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 8 points 14 hours ago

The TNG cast is pretty human. They don't avoid anger, happiness, frustration, empathy, sexual tension, etc.

To the chuds of 4chan, showing a normal range of human emotion is over emotional, which this greentext is mocking.

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 16 points 16 hours ago

First one that comes to mind is "The Outcast". Not really gay, but for anyone who is triggered by anything different they would consider it "woke".

[-] Stamets@lemmy.world 23 points 15 hours ago

There's also:

  • The Host which has Crusher dealing with falling in love with a Trill who moves hosts. It can be seen in some very specific ways as a trans allegory and just challenging heteronormative assumptions about love and attraction.

  • The show really pushes a lot of 'Found Family' stuff which ends up being super popular in most LGBTQ+ media because we're disowned by other people. (Data accepted and accepting himself as part of the crew, Worf and Alexander aren't too awesome but Deanna steps up a bit there. You've got Wesley who's kind of adopted by most of the upper ranks after a while.

  • TNG is purely "Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations" which people see as gay agenda because they wanna collapse anything pro-diversity as just being LGBTQ+ because they have fragile pathetic minds.

  • Q is aggressively queer coded. The hyper dramatic and flamboyant personality, the penchant for being a theatrical whore, openly flirting with Picard (and Riker) in such a way that you genuinely aren't sure if he's joking or not, he rejects every type of rigid norm from humanity, Voyager and a few other things even hinted in such a way that due to his ability to change form he's above gendered norms too and sort of gender fluid. Not to mention being the campiest motherfucker this side of the Alpha quadrant. "It matters to me. YOU matter to me. Even Gods have favorites, Jean-Luc. You've always been one of mine." There's also his deep fucking loneliness, something that a metric fuckload of people in the community suffer from. Part of a whole but ostracized and on the outside? Yea.

[-] joyjoy@lemm.ee 13 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Q is Queer? I never would've guessed.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago
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[-] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 15 points 16 hours ago

retconned Klingons to look super weird

TBF the Klingons were retconned in TMP

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago

From now on, every Star Trek show should change the appearance of the Kinglons and the Trill. And also add a new color of Andorians.

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