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Honestly I think I’m more dissuaded because of who Elon has become.
Knowing he can swoop into Tesla and start making decisions that over rule the experts that work there like he did at twitter should scare people who can't afford to just buy another EV if it happens to Tesla.
"If" it happens to Tesla? Pretty sure the over promising if FSD and the poor build quality have always been Tesla things driven by Musk. Once competition gears up I really hope Tesla improves. It's actually a fun car to drive just make sure you get one that was built properly and don't bother with FSD.
Look at twitter though, I'm not convinced Tesla cant get much much worse and I think its directly related to how much time Musk spends doing his job there.
The difference is Twitter is a private company, and Tesla is public. Meaning he is free to run Twitter into the ground because at the end of the day, it's his to do as he pleases. But with Tesla, he has to ultimately answer to the share holders, if he starts running amok of the company, they can vote to give him the boot and he can't really do anything about it.
There are quality issues but the success of Tesla was mostly due to the hype created by Elon, now that most of the people that care the most about the environment dislike Elon of course their sales drop
The success was because for a solid 5 years, the Model 3/Y were the only widely available long range EVs.
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I was drawn to them when they were new and different and it seemed like some of the problems were just growing pains. Now it seems like Tesla started as a great idea and quickly got steamrolled into a clown show like everything else Elon touches. At one point I wanted a model 3 but now I'd rather have a gas electric hybrid like a Prius or something and an ebike or scooter.
You mean added ad content that's not removable or blockable, charging a subscription for no new features, and blocking users he doesn't like.
Yeah I'm not buying a car from a megalomaniac that might flip the switch for Tesla over 6 months to become his new biggest ad/subscription machine.
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I’m in the market for a new car. Probably an electric. Sometime in the next 3-5 years. I’ll be fucked if I even consider one of this douchecunt’s cars.
It’s falling because the cars are garbage. Slightly cutting the prices doesn’t make them any less garbage. You could get an EV from a reputable brand for much less.
I don't know why Lemmy hates Tesla so much. Hate Elon, sure, he's probably behind the crazy quotas leading to poor build quality and definitely behind overselling FSD, but if it wasn't for Tesla we would still have no viable EVs. I hope competition makes a good one soon but right now Tesla is the best EV with the best charging network. Lots of people are driving them now.
They're hellishly expensive cars. They harvest data, and if you opt out your car may become useless. They exaggerate the car statistics, like driving range. The build quality is frequently poor, with visible panel gaps (that cheap-arse Dacias don't even have), rear bumpers that fall off due to rainfall, they are prone to rust, and the FSD despite clearly not being "fully self driving" or even road safe is available as an extra subscription, that people actively pay for and make use of making the roads less safe.
That's just the tip of the iceberg as well. Like how replacing the battery costs as much as buying a new car. Or the fact that the already shitty battery life gets even worse when it gets cold, leading to people getting stuck on the motorway in the winter, forcing them to get a taxi and abandon their car.
Perhaps Tesla started off well back in the late 00s, but Musk's been doing nothing but bullshit since the moment he got his grubby little hands on the thing. There are awful stories coming from the factories involving racism, frequent injuries (the factory in Germany is laughable, and it's shocking it hasn't been shut down), and really worrying things have been said even about the software its running on.
Then there's all the weird-ass design decisions, like replacing the steering wheel with a yoke, without adding servo steering meaning it's just a malshaped steering wheel. They've also paved the way for bullshit capacitive touch areas rather than buttons, and tacked actual important functions like turn signals on them.
If you accidentally caress the fart button and make the bloody thing do lmao memez hilariouz farting, no one gets injured. Miscommunicating your intention in traffic could lead to deaths.
It's a bad company, and they're bad cars.
It's a decent enough company owned by a sack of shit, and the cars are pretty good.
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In 2021, I almost bought a Tesla, but needed a car quickly and they had a long wait. I’d still consider it but it has now become clear that Elon Musk sucks, so I’ll never buy one.
My next car will be an EV from literally any other company.
Yeah in thinking about a Bolt if my Aptera order doesn't come through.
Fwiw my Bolt has been rock solid so far. I'm getting about 240 miles per charge (to 90%, not full). It's a city driver though, I wouldn't plan to take it on a road trip
I'd avoid VW too, honestly. They were had to build out Electrify America because they cheated with emissions. They clearly do not give a shit about it and their charging stations are continually rated the worst.
Yeah, used to own VWs. They are shit cars and that’s why I stopped buying them, but the emissions cheating was also a nail in the coffin for my consideration of them.
You can't really get away from Tesla chargers though if you need to do a road trip. Happily, many other brands are adopting the standard so I think soon anyone can use them.
You can use adapters
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Too expensive to run proper power to my garage to go electric. My main panel is in the basement on the other side of my house.
I also had this problem. I was lucky enough to have an electric dryer plug near the garage, and got a "splitvolt" brand switching box, which is awesome.
I do have an electric dryer plug on the other side of one of the walls as well. Hmmm. I need to look into this
If you take a look at the socket, the ones with three prongs are not recommended but it is possible they were installed with a 4th wire in the cable but the socket is 3 prong. I replaced my 3 prong socket with 4 prong one (the 4th wire is ground, crazy stupid to not use it.) Cheap and 26 amps at 220-240 volts.
Obviously you don't need one, but for those who may benefit: I've been using a weird 3 prong to 4 prong plug adapter for several years now without trouble. It has a ground wire that you plug into the ground slot of a nearby outlet, so it's quite safe.
Yes, you can do that, but remember that if there is a critical problem that forces the complete current into the ground wire, rare. the ground wire from a smaller socket is also likely to be smaller gauge wire. You will likely end up with the same problem of not having a ground wire as the donor ground could just burn up. You can reduce the possibility of the donor socket ground wire from burning by not allowing anything else to use the socket/wireloop(if there is more than one socket using the same breaker switch).
This is not proper electrical code, but there is no reason to stop using these cords as the possibility of catastrophic failure from causing much harm. As usual, I would err on the side of safety and suggest getting a professional to work on it and using the proper socket for the plug.
Thanks for the info. That would be a crazy, albeit still possible, situation. I'm going to keep using my plug, mostly because I'm renting. Don't tell my landlord.
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