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[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 58 points 11 months ago

I’m just waiting for

“After moving all features behind a paywall, Musk hides the Login button.”

At this point, he’s obviously just trolling.

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 11 months ago

At this point, he’s obviously just ~~trolling~~ an idiot.

[-] artic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 11 months ago

He shouldjusyt shut it down at this point

[-] artaxadepressedhorse@lemmyngs.social 48 points 11 months ago

Seriously, everyone here, if you know somebody still using Twitter, you should take the time to inform them about mastodon and explain why continuing to use that dying abusive platform and give Musk legitimacy is a bad idea.

[-] Kaldo@beehaw.org 16 points 11 months ago

The moment you get actual content creators to move off twitter and provide their content on mastodon, I'm deleting it too. Until then I don't really see mastodon being a proper replacement, if anything it looks like bsky is taking the lead in that area unfortunately. Besides, half of mastodon community is seemingly against the idea of becoming mainstream anyway... so I dunno if it's ever going to work out that way.

[-] Dee_Imaginarium@beehaw.org 12 points 11 months ago

As somebody who produces content (with a full time job so not as often as I like) it's so much harder to get engagement on mastodon without the algorithm tbh. I'm trying to get my name out there but engagement is slim to none compared to say, Instagram. I'm not on Twitter but both BlueSky and Mastodon have been a struggle. I don't see myself devoting too much energy into them as far as posting content goes tbh.

[-] beaumains@programming.dev 9 points 11 months ago

I'm sorry but that's because you are treating Mastodon like an advertising platform, not a social network.

engagement is slim to none compared to say, Instagram

This is because Instagram is an ad platform with social features.

[-] Dee_Imaginarium@beehaw.org 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm fully aware of that thanks, I was responding to:

The moment you get actual content creators to move off twitter and provide their content on mastodon, I’m deleting it too.

And saying from the perspective of a content creator, that's an issue that's hard to overlook. So mastodon won't get to that point of having all the content creators if there isn't something to help them share their content. I don't know what the solution would be, maybe a separate feed with an algorithm that people can switch to if they want.

Edit: and the antisocial comments below is why mastodon will never take off with the larger population and therefore never really compete with Twitter, Threads, or BlueSky for content.

[-] beaumains@programming.dev 3 points 11 months ago

My point was that creators should want to disconnect from these artificial engagement driven systems that make people care about their "brand" and all that corpo bullshit.

I don't think mastodon has to do anything to draw creators to it, it is what it is and many people like it that way. I don't like the fake, engagement driven, clout goblin mentality that infests instagram and if mastodon started doing things to cultivate that vibe I would consider it a bug not a feature.

[-] Kaldo@beehaw.org 4 points 11 months ago

You're bunding all of it together. I don't want EA to run their marketing campaign or mastodon (although why not - it'd add legitimacy to the platform and I can easily block/not follow them), but I do want smaller youtubers posting there, I want artists to share news or boost other artists. I want developers to post announcements about what they are working on or when an update drops for their game. I want developers to have their personal accounts there and share stories about the development too.

All of this i get on twitter. I haven't gotten any of it on mastodon because none of these people have moved off twitter, and never will because mastodon doesn't want to give them a platform on which they can reach the same audience.

[-] beaumains@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

Right. I guess I just loathe the relentless commodification of our social interactions and one of the things I like about mastodon isthath the "always be promoting your personal brand" thing is notably absent. It reminds me of early social media, before people became brainrotted chasing the influencer lifestyle. I guess I just don't think you can have an algorithm for that kind of thing because then the connections aren't real.

[-] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 3 points 11 months ago

Twitter has always been garbage but now it's way worse than ever before

[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 12 points 11 months ago

You're not going to argue them out of Twitter. If they're still there, it's not for rational reasons. It's because of nostalgia, or because they're part of communities that are stuck facing the Fiddler on the Roof problem.

Shaming them for staying isn't going to work, either. We need to make a space for them to move to, not away from, and, frankly, the Fediverse just isn't that right now.

[-] Auzy@beehaw.org 31 points 11 months ago

Can we simply stop talking about Twitter? At this time, we're just drawing traffic to articles about it, encouraging more free advertising for Twitter to be made

[-] Mechaguana@programming.dev 10 points 11 months ago

Tbh i like this circling around the dying zebu part of media, especially when its about an oligarch slowly consuming himself!

[-] Legendsofanus@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago

Dying zebu?

[-] Auzy@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah. Like trump, I enjoy it, but it's like alcohol, I know it's not a good thing lol

[-] megopie@beehaw.org 29 points 11 months ago

2 weeks from now “Elon musk plans to lock the ability to like and retweet behind subscription”

[-] YuzuDrink@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago

Literally making Twitter more tolerable every time he locks some feature behind logins/paywalls.

[-] adaveinthelife@lemmy.ca 24 points 11 months ago

I never understood the appeal of twitter before Elon bought it, and I understand it less with every news report about it since.

[-] java@beehaw.org 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It was a great place to share information in a short and clear manner. You could subscribe to journalists working in your area, a professor from MIT or another university, follow sport journalists, war analysts - you name it. They all posted their thoughts and links to their articles, interviews or podcasts with them, they shared information about their new books. Twitter was like an RSS feed, where you could subscribe to authors directly. You could write them and get a reply! It was and probably still is a great tool, though Musk is taking a lot of steps to destroy it.

[-] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 1 points 11 months ago

Yup; Twitter was at its best when it was just a free RSS aggregator with summaries and a lot more publishers.

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

To be fair, the only thing I ever used it for was emergency reporting.

If he scales it back so that the only free and public feature is tweets of 250 characters or less, I may actually visit it again. Assuming my ad blocker works.

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 11 months ago

making the experience worse to force people to click on tweets and drive up impressions inflating user counts

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 16 points 11 months ago

Next up on the chopping block: Posting and reading tweets.

[-] tesseract@beehaw.org 10 points 11 months ago

How to make 44B$ disappear: For aspiring billionaire magicians with no control over their tongue or egos.

[-] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 11 months ago

He can always not pay the bank who actually paid for Twitter. It is already worth less than his debt.

[-] thejml@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

I always wondered why they didn’t use gestures. Going from using Apollo to to Twitter was jarring.

Not that it matters now, I fixed that by just not going to X.

[-] Critical_Insight@feddit.uk 3 points 11 months ago

It was like this on the Flamingo app aswell and I prefered it that way. I almost never interact with any tweets so those buttons were just useless clutter for me.

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