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[-] atetulo@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

The fuck do they need to 'show' solidarity for? Just say you stand with Israel and move on.

All the money spent coordinating that visit could be better spent fighting the war in Ukraine.

[-] OttoVonNoob@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago

Political play, Israel hasn't went all in on Ukraine. This could be part of an agreement for weapon share, experience share, intel share, etc etc. Diplomacy is a fucked up thing.

[-] atetulo@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

That's actually interesting. It could be beneficial if it resulted in greater support for Ukraine from Israel.

I'm mostly focusing on Israel supporting Ukraine because Ukraine has far fewer resources and a way greater enemy to face.

[-] OttoVonNoob@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

I mean Zelensky internationally is very popular. It draws attention, Currys sympathy and overall legitimizes the war declaration more. On top of thar the most experiences soldiers in the world are Ukrainians and or Russians at the moment. The Russians have been siding with Iran, so Israel probably a tad pissed. If Ukraine sends 10 instructors maybe Israel sends 10 AA missle launchers with rounds to Ukraine.

[-] IonAddis@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

All the money spent coordinating that visit could be better spent fighting the war in Ukraine.

...you do realize that the ONLY reason the money coming in to Ukraine at the pace it is is because he said exactly the right things on the world stage at the right time in such a charismatic way that people believed in him enough that fundraising basically started flowing in?

His diplomatic/networking/fundraising acumen is WHY the money is flowing in, ya doofus.

Why the hell wouldn't he be furiously trying to arrange in-person meetings where he can use his personal social skills to forge diplomatic ties?

[-] atetulo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

So, you're saying that him going to visit Israel in person will result in more aid to Ukraine, enough to outweigh the costs of facilitating such a visit?

You could be right. You could be wrong. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

I think that Ukraine would receive the same amount of aid regardless of if Zelensky goes to Israel in person.

[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Talk is cheap. Action isn’t.

[-] atetulo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What is the action?

Going there in person? How does that change things?

Heck, they could just send the money they would spend coordinating the visit to Israel to have a greater impact. But they have their own war to fight, so.

[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It shows sincerity. This is how humans have made peace treaties and showed their real support for millennia.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Guess Iran shouldn't have gotten itself involved on Russia's side of the Ukraine war.

[-] Xariphon@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Solidarity with the oppressor is a strange stance to take.

[-] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

He's doing it for his country, it's realpolitik.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

What a shitty article to paint this as a fully cynical political action. Outside of Isreal and Ukraine facing the same enemy its important to remember that the vast majority of jews in the USSR were in the Ukrainian SSR and now have ties to modern day Ukraine. It'd be nice for Axios to at least mention that there is a cultural link between Isreal and Ukraine.

[-] ruford1976@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

but then no one will click at their articles.

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