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What were we talking about again? (startrek.website)

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[-] EditsHisComments@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Man, just thinking of the mental anguish that Obi-Wan went through in his adult life. He suffered just as much as Anakin, if not more - yet he never fell from his path. After seeing his love interest murdered by the former Sith - who killed his mentor in front of him - he thought he killed, he went a literal decade in exile thinking he killed his best friend, who was complicit in the deaths of thousands of their fellow Jedi and friends, over something that could have been avoided if they didn't inadvertently play into Palpatine's umbrella of schemes nearly every time.

Then he found out Anakin was still alive, and actually responsible for all of the behind-the-scenes action of the Empire.

Edit: to give credit to Anakin, he was a teenager when he began being fully groomed by Palpatine. Given that Palpatine was one of the strongest force users in all of known galactic history, I think Anakin would have been an extreme Grey Jedi at worst if he wasn't manipulated by the Dark Lord of the Sith

[+] Stamets@startrek.website 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

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[-] EditsHisComments@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Good points, but an important thing to consider is the Jedi - Obi-Wan and Yoda included, Yoda especially - were so caught up in their own hubris that they allowed all these events to transpire in their faces. The rise of the Empire didn't cause this to change, as evidenced by your points that Yoda and Obi-Wan lied to Luke until they realized they couldn't anymore. Plus, they did the same to Anakin and Ahsoka in different situations during the Clone Wars - while they all were still part of the Jedi Order. So I'd say the surviving Jedi barely changed in that regard. But my point was, Obi-Wan never fell to the dark side as Anakin did - despite having gone through worse for longer.

Personally, I hope future Jedi are more pragmatic / Grey in their approaches, similar to Qui-Gon or Dooku before his fall. I think if more Jedi had been like that, Palpatine would not have been able to be as opportunistic as he was. Btw, thanks for engaging in this lol I'm a sucker for it all

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

After that much ketamine do you think Kermit could remember the fight?

[-] OberonSwanson@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Anakin and Maul are both reminders to double-tap any Sith you’re dueling, otherwise you’re gonna torture yourself for no reason.

[-] stardreamer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

*Darth Sion enters the chat*

[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

Obi-Wan had a love interest?

[-] EditsHisComments@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Duchess Satine, Ruler of Mandalore. She appears intermittently during the Clone Wars show. Anakin and Obi-Wan kinda had a thing for independent women in power lol

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Uh huh uh huh good points good points,

Gray Jedi

Them's fightin' words.

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I guess I can see how it would have fucked everything up to tell Luke the truth at that time. You can see Alex Guinness’ eyes flicker right before he tells the lie, btw. You can almost see him thinking “Fuck me, if I tell this little bitch all the goddamn hell his motherfucking father raised… damn, he’ll flip his shit and think of nothing except how to run his little ass as far from the Force as possible. Hell with it.l Imma lie.”

[-] gazter@aussie.zone -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This fan-cut tells it best: https://youtu.be/T9j7kLG7VK8

(Ed: Fixed link)

[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Is that the video you meant to link?

[-] gazter@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago

No, that's odd, I've never seen that video before... Hopefully fixed? https://youtu.be/T9j7kLG7VK8

[-] Noodle07@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm confused as well

[-] creditCrazy@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah I won that playing a rather dangerous game of the floor is lava

[-] Acinonyx@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 year ago

... and he was a good friend

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I, too, leave my friends dismembered and burning in agonizing pain.

[-] tkarika@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

49 times...

[-] TheMongoose@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, the Youngling Slayer 9000...

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

It has been used for some horrific evil

...good stats though so

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