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So all we need to do is find a way to put people in prison!

Win-win!

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[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 46 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Public work is one thing if we had a fair justice system (we don't)

Private work is absolutely indefensible.

[-] sartalon@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago

My wife was a journalist in SoCal a while back. She did a story on some women prisoners that were used to assist in firefighting.

They worked alongside Cal Fire. It was rough work, they were right there in the shit.

She can't recall if they were paid anything extra but she does remember that they ALL volunteered for it. They actually loved it.

[-] IamtheMorgz@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

In my job, I occasionally facilitate training for prisoner firefighters. Not only do they all love the job, they are also the best FD we train with. They read the material, study procedures, get it right when being observed. They get to stay at the firehouse instead of the prison itself, so both getting invited to do it and continuing to do it are huge for the inmates. They also love it. It burns my biscuit right up that they'll not be able to be a firefighter when they get out.

[-] Pieisawesome@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

They allow them to become firefighters nowadays.

The law changed recently

[-] IamtheMorgz@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Depends on the state I imagine. But I just looked mine up and it's "in the last 10 years" and not "ever" so that's good.

[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It could lead to them getting job offers if/when they get released.

It does not.

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 day ago

They are banned (or they used to be, looks like there were some legal changes recently) from being firefighters after they're released, so...

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[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

Yo, its the private fire fighters the guy was asking on Twitter about.

[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

"I will pay any amount"

1 dollar per hour and your soul is pretty cheap.

Da fuq? This is just plain wrong.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

not legally. the constitution did not ban slavery completely. there is an explicit exception for prisoners.

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[-] BlackPenguins@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Fire Country

Yes, that is a TV show.

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world -5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

So you and people who get free room and board should get equal pay, or they're slaves, but you're not. Got it.

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[-] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

To play devil's advocate, and out of blind ignorancr, what's the alternative? Do nothing? Conscript the public?

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[-] exu@feditown.com 1 points 17 hours ago

I wonder if the Alethi pay their slaves better. What's the normal hourly rate for a firefighter?

[-] Darth_Vader@lemm.ee 1 points 14 hours ago

I can confirm, Alethi slaves are better paid.

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