I've been remote since 2019. It's great!

So their own job has no value. Got it.

Is the work getting completed? Then you don't really need to monitor them.

What KPI's could you be measuring by hovering over someone's shoulder while they work? Their APM?

We can't tell you off for taking a moment to look at your phone or for wearing headphones unless you are in the office; this is how we justify our positions.. so despite the economic, environmental and quality of life improvements we are demanding you return so we can continue to justify our pay and position.

Also fuck you, and get in your cubicle bitch

Their No. 1 problem with it is how difficult it is to observe and monitor employees

Um, no. Like others here have pointed out, the overwhelming majority of office workers have to turn in countable digital product of some sort for their job production. LOOK AT IT. Was it the quantity and quality required of them? Well, there you go.

Also, what the hell are you on about, hypothetical boss? In today's technical age, so many bosses can just remote view a worker's screens (even when the workers don't know that it's happening in real time).

It's creepy to spy, but if you really suspect someone's away from keyboard extendedly when they aren't supposed to be, you can literally just look in.

"I can't monitor my employees" is such a weird complaint when counting is a thing and tech tools are out there designed to let you overview your workforce.

So glad my boss trusts our team. Quite literally only have a 30 minute meeting with everyone, once a week.

Very rare they ever ask anything from us. If they ever do, I make sure it's a priority and it gets done.

Lool, without having subordinates in shouting distance they're realizing they produce very little themselves, and now the subordinates can organize themselves. God forbid you do some of the work they're doing and help them out a bit eh?

Finally, some truth. Micromanagers can’t show their worth because they can’t micromanage.

Micromanagement needs to be fired. It’s old school and outdated.

Daily reminder: economists work for banks, not for us.

Sounds like they need retraining or firing then. They need to learn some CRM skills.

I shopped around and recently got a new CRM that works better for what our company is doing, and helps keep tabs on everyone's workload and time tracking and it's so good.

And I'm not even managing anyone, my department is a one-man army. It's just really really nice to be able to hold yourself accountable, take relevant notes for future reference, and see what workload I have every day. I'm still busy and stressed to fuck, but the load off my brain trying to remember every single job I have is phenomenal.

I don't need a meeting or a phone call or an hour standing at anyone's desk, I just open a dashboard and go 'Cool I can see what's coming, whats been done, whos working on it, and all the documentation and logging I need to be informed about how it effects my work' in seconds.

They don’t know much about spyware then

I'm pretty sure nearly everyone who was WFH in my area had to return to the office because my morning commute went from 25-30m to 35-40m. Doesn't sound like much but the traffic has gotten so busy the long way is faster most mornings.

Breaking: Bosses' number 1 problem with remote work is actually the best part

I spent about a year fully remote, and have been hybrid since the pandemic. I am happy!

More like how do they justify their jobs. Supervisors can't afford for employees to be judged on results. They need to have a system where they can look over shoulders else what good are the supervisors.