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[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 63 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Holy shit, is he fucking stupid? Or is he simply bought by China now? Because he has been softer on China rhetoric recently.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago

Holy shit, is he fucking stupid?

Well, yes, he is. You can't get more stupid than punishing your own economy by imposing insane tarriffs on vital products you are unable to produce yourself.

[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 22 points 2 months ago
[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

If he wasn't rabidly anti-China, he'd remove the 25% special tariff. He just so anti-china, he hates both of them.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago

I'll take duh for 2000 alex.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 47 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Cutting the US Industries throat?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 months ago

Undermining the USA. All the signs are that he's working diligently against the USA's interests in everything he does. The question is, is he stupid and being run by people with a stupid agenda, or stupid and being run by people with a smart agenda that serves some other power?

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 40 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

This is crazy. It is going to massively increase the cost of most leading edge computing devices (in the US). Seems like Apple in particular will be hit hard; are Americans going to go shopping in Canada to try and get massive discounts on computing electronics?

I wouldn't be surprised is there is a downstream price effect in other countries as well (some measure of price increases to align with US dynamics).

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You'd expect the opposite. More available stock not being bought in the US would mean lower prices elsewhere.

I, not being in the hellhole country in question, broadly embrace this choice. Please, fashy granpa, refuse to buy any chips not made in the USA. I could use an affordable new GPU soon.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I would only support lower prices in other countries, but companies to tend use situations for broader price increases.

We'll soon find out how this plays out.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 7 points 2 months ago

I'm not really sure how they'd use a tariff that raises prices in the US and lowers US demand for stock in Taiwan to raise prices in the territories that can still purchase the stock for its base cost.

Manufactured goods that have to go through the US for some reason, maybe, but who the hell would even try to sell that elsewhere in a world where every step through the US border has a 100% tariff?

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“They already have billions of dollars. […] They did not need money. They needed an incentive. And the incentive is going to be they [do not want to] pay a 25%, 50% or even a 100% tax."

What does he think taxes are. An administrative burden to doge?

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He still does not understand how tariffs work. By that statement he honestly thinks that he will take a 25% cut of what is paid to TSMC, rather than the fact that the price of TSMC chips will go up 25%, and that extra 25% has to be paid by an American company.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

It’s might be even worse then that; if something costs $1000 currently, with a 25% tariff could it not end up costing 33.3% more ($1,333), so that after the 25% tariff, the value returns to $1000?

[–] boreengreen@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago

Putin handed Trump the manual for destroying america from within, while whispering in his ear, "this is the genious handbook for leadership".

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 months ago

Apple about to become a budget brand due to oversupply everywhere elsewhere.

[–] quink@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

And this is why I bought one of those new M4 MacBook Pros ASAP shortly after Trump was elected.

[–] fuzzyleonardo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

This so highlights the difference between good policy and bad policy. The previous administration worked towards improving America's access to chips by setting policies that encourage chip manufacturing. This new administration isnt taking steps to make more chips here, but trying to make it harder to get chips from other places.

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago

Can I just...hop to another reality...one where there's less fascism...perhaps where all people are just shrimp instead...oh wait... never mind.