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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 108 points 1 month ago (20 children)

The thing that NOBODY seems to understand, or maybe not willing to admit is, you CANNOT group people together.

It's the whole reason racism logically makes no sense. At all.

"Oh, all those dirty (insert race here) are good for nothin! They're all assholes!"

And sure, regardless of what race you inserted there, there's going to be some assholes. There's also going to be some amazing people that you're unfairly judging.

And it's not just races. It's anything. Races, genders, religions, countries, social groups, book clubs, whatever.

If you think all people of one group think the same on everything, you're just factually wrong. And if you use that incorrect fact to judge that group, now you're just an asshole.

I've found that people th]?6ink judging people is bad, and wrong. I don't think so. I think some people are just terrible at judging people, and miss the point of judging people. You're supposed to judge them as an individual. Not as (insert group here).

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 115 points 1 month ago (73 children)

I think we can safely shit on Nazis as a whole, though.

[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

My critic to what the other guy said, is that you can judge a group of that group is specific enough to judge them on these characteristics.

Are all christians bad? Hell no. Active adult members of the Westboro Baptist Church? Hell yes. They are bad because their website is literally godhatesfags.com.

Now Nazis are fucking Nazis. 11 millions murders should be enough to judge them as a group and those who liked it.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yup. What are they actually advocating for? What are their true core beliefs?

It should also be noted that there are groups you can control your membership of (political parties, religions) and groups you are forced into (ethnicity, sexuality). The group you choose to join speaks far more about how terrible or good you are. The worst groups and people are those that attack people based on groups they are forced into, bigots and fascists.

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[–] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The thing that NOBODY seems to understand [is] you cannot group people together.

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[–] lena@gregtech.eu 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I know a person who genuinely thinks men shouldn't have any rights because they're so bad. She's like "women are superior, they develop emotional maturity earlier" or "all men are assholes". I think she's a lost hope.

[–] WagyuSneakers@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Don't talk to them anymore. Antisocial people should be isolated.

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[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There’s a difference between judging people on a category they don’t choose vs. a set of beliefs they choose to follow.

If I tried to claim all brown-eyed people are evil, I’d be bigoted because eye color does not determine who you are as a person. But if I claimed that all members of the Puppy Kickers Club are evil because they literally believe in kicking puppies and require doing so frequently as a requirement for membership, then my claim is valid.

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[–] Rokin@lemm.ee 67 points 1 month ago (8 children)
[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They're just all related to Beedle.

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[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 63 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Without men who will protect you from men?

Checkmate feminists.

[–] WagyuSneakers@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I thought that's what the bears were for.

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

According to Americans: Armed Bears

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[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 53 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Can’t tell his expression at the end. Is he mad or is he ashamed or does he kinda like her?

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 96 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)
[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago

The superior template.

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[–] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago

My guess is that he's farting

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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 21 points 1 month ago (6 children)

This is part of thing with anything. Whos definition of feminism whos definition of communism. Jane Adams feminism. Hell yeah. But then some celebrity in the 80's was arguing against physical fitness tests for firefighters saying well they could use like power axes or something (which you know. did not exist). Which is sorta funny to me because its sorta dissing on womens ability to pass the tests. Its like there are women who can pass the tests. Its not beyond them. Felt antifeminist to me.

EDITED - I think it was Gloria Steinem

[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But then some celebrity in the 80’s was arguing against physical fitness tests for firefighters saying well they could use like power axes or something (which you know. did not exist).

Who? I feel like a huge issue here is saying anyone who is a woman and says a thing = feminism. I know dozens of firefighters who are women, they pass the tests all the time. (My brother is a volunteer firefighter in BC, Canada.)

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They are probably referring to Brenda Berkman who successfully sued the NY dept because they could not prove that the requirements of the test matched the actual conditions firefighters face: that as soon as women started applying they added a new condition that they had to meet speed requirements of carrying an unresponsive body up a burning building: something that you simply wouldn't do.

The moment they reverted the test to what men had previously had to accomplish, 41 women passed with flying colors.

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[–] metallic_substance@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'm genuinely torn, because I support the message, but the execution is... very unclear.

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[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (5 children)

The entire "bear" thing is the exact same situation from the other side. The reality is that there is always nuance, while it is more popular / more often that people see the extreme outliers and attribute that to the entire group.

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